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He huffed about how the question wasn't "appropriate" even though his bill would result in kids being asked that same question.

A Republican state rep from Michigan testifying about his anti-trans sports bill on Monday was left speechless after an out Democratic colleague began his questioning by asking, “Representative, can you tell me: are you trans?”

A long beat staring down out gay Democratic state Rep. Mike McFall followed, before state Rep. Jason Woolford (R) managed to reply, “Are you?”

“I’m actually going somewhere with this,” he said to lawmakers in the small chamber.

“Because I want to know, how does a 14-year-old girl prove whether or not she’s trans to a 50-year-old coach?”

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[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (26 children)

I guess I'm out of the loop on this subject and honestly I don't know if the information I have is factual or not.

Do trans women generally have a physical advantage over women? Are there any rules for this kind of thing? Do they need to be transitioning or taking suppression drugs? This is a serious question.

[–] Colalextrast@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Human beings are sexually dimorphic, but most of the advantages or disadvantages are negligible or can be overcome with training, so it makes little difference. It makes even less difference in middle and high school aged children, since everyone is at (somewhat) different points developmentally anyway.

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So in college sports the performance gap is larger and should be considered or no? I also find this hard to believe even at a highschool level. While I was in highschool the advantages of testosterone were very obvious. If it were really the case that it makes little to no difference then shouldn't the argument be to remove gender from sports all together?

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

negligible or can be overcome with training

I agree on a highscool/grade school level, but not at any extreme competitive level. There's a reason most of the world records for athletics are held by men.

Testosterone doesn't make all men better than all women, but if you take two equally trained+talented people for most athletic events, the men outperform the women.

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[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There is a recent last week tonight with Jon Oliver that explores this topic in a way that entertaining and powerful. Definitely worth a watch.

https://youtu.be/flSS1tjoxf0

Hopefully you have a genuine interest and aren't "just asking questions"

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm genuinely asking. On its face it seems unfair but I also don't understand public schools'obsession with sports that seems to be made worse by the cost of college and sports also being tied to that. At the same time I also know that anything the GOP is throwing a bitch fit about is guaranteed to be a bunch of bullshit. I usually watch John Oliver regularly but I've fallen behind this season. I appreciate the link and I'll give it a watch.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

Considering most trans athletes can't best records set by cis women, it seems pretty clearly no

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[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“out Democratic”

What does that mean?

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[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

What is Jason Woodford hiding?!?!?

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