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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 124 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Nobody said reality was all smiles and rainbows. However, it’s entirely possible to find happiness without believing in fairy tales so you can sleep at night.

[–] werty@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Im an atheist and I listen to The Lord of the Rings audiobook so I can sleep at night. Reality is fucking awful and I like my fairy tales.

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[–] tatann@lemm.ee 98 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (35 children)

I didn't realize neckbeard atheists oppressed so many people compared to religion, thanks to the author for opening my eyes

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 82 points 1 week ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)
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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh boy, I sure love the ol' "atheists are filthy neckbeards" canard. Haven't heard that one before.

[–] Blubber28@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget the "not believing in god = sadness" one. Realizing it is fake actually brought relief for the ex-religious people that I know (anecdotal, I know. I don't have the actual numbers).

[–] milk@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago

Thats a little unfair. Most religous people have been religious for most of their lives and it makes up a large part of it. Being convinced their whole philosophy is wrong would crush some people

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[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 72 points 1 week ago (6 children)

To be honest, I don't think a lot of people are ready. It's a hard thing to deconstruct your faith and if you're not careful it can take you to some really dark places. For a lot of people it's the way they find meaning and solace in a world of pain. Ultimately if you can find that comfort without tying it to religion that's better but not everyone can. That's my take on it post-deconversion

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's more of a generational issue, really. Convincing someone who was already indoctrinated as a baby and began to "pray" as early as their arm coordination allowed it is almost cruel, really. At that point it's reality-shattering. Let alone if your religion included any kind of body-modification, especially without anesthesia (that shit burns itself into the very fabric of your brain as a baby). In that case it's even worse, as it'd entail the realisation that your body has been violated (some may use stronger wording).

At the end of the day what counts is that you're a decent person, no matter your stance on religion or spirituality.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah, going from finding fulfillment through religion to finding it through other means isn't something you can do instantly.

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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Soo what is the message here? Atheists are incel neckbeard basement dwellers and god is as real as one of their mother?

Edit: Oh wait I misread the comic in the most funny way! I read it as "my mum god" as if he stopped believing in his mum as a deity. Tired brain plays weird tricks.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Soo what is the message here?

That proselytizing about atheism without considering the needs and character of your audience can be just as bad as religion doing the same.

Love is more important than being right, and the son in the comic very clearly didn't show any. As soon as he proved his point, he left to go celebrate with his friends rather than spend time with his mother. He failed to show her that just because there is no big sky god doesn't mean that is no love.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's about atheists who make atheism their whole personality.

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[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 60 points 1 week ago (16 children)

DEAR LORD PEOPLE, SOMETIMES THERE IS NOT A DEEPER MESSAGE AND IT'S JUST A DUMB JOKE!

Seriously, check out the other comics by this artist. They just like absurdist humor, like this one:

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[–] astrsk@fedia.io 42 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Is the mother supposed to be sad about religion being a sham or sad that her child doesn’t believe? The comic is too ambiguous to me because the 1st and 2nd panel heavily imply a caricature of atheism often spread by religious people who feel powerless in their own lives.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 16 points 1 week ago

Even other atheists or agnostics use that caricature of reddit atheists. It's less so atheists and more like atheists who make atheism their whole personality

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Sad that the existential dread of not existing after death makes life pointless.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

One panel away from being Loss.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So many people in this thread completely missing the satire. The author is clearly also an atheist poking fun at the highschool reddit atheist stereotype. Taking this way too seriously.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Honestly, this is why I don't discuss Mormon history and the massive, gaping chasms in their claims of Truth with my parents. My parents are old--old enough that the family is talking about who is going to call the coroner, who's going to deal with tying up finances, etc.--and knowing that they've wasted an entire lifetime and hundreds of thousands of dollars in tithing on a con isn't going to do anything useful at this point. Fifty years ago? Sure, they would have had plenty of time to come to terms with it. Now? Meh.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When I worked in a nursing home, I was Christian.

I mean, I wasn't. At all. But the dying little old ladies who sundowned so bad that they sometimes thought I was their grandchild? When they asked if I believed in Jesus, I'd bite my tongue and tell them yes. I hated having to lie to their faces, I hate even thinking about it all these years later, but some of them had nothing to look forward to except "going to heaven" by that point. Lying seemed the most ethical choice.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I would think you’d need to tell lots of lies to someone in that state to not make things difficult over and over for them. Jesus would just be another one on that pile.

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[–] Gemini24601@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

As long as they aren’t doing horrible things in the name of religion, then I have the controversial opinion that religion isn’t all bad. Not everyone is an intellectual, therefore some religions can be considered a way to promote and preserve morals. While it’s unknown how his mother used religion, the neckband portrayed in the comic had no regard for his mother’s feelings or beliefs, showcasing the bad side of atheism. In the same way, religion could have similar effects. In the end there needs to be balance, a yin and a yang.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've got a somewhat different take, but similar

We are shedding light on the world through science and philosophy. We first figure out the most effective ways to think about things with philosophy, and then we apply that thought process with the scientific method to further our understanding.

Eventually, we will always reach the shadows on the edge our understanding, whether personally or as a society. Past that point, we are really just making up apparitions in the dark, until we can shed light on that edge.

That process of spotting forms in the dark is always going to be informed by some unfalsifiable ideation, either because we can't test the ideas we have, or because the ideas we have are inherently unproveable.

To me, it really doesn't matter what kind of ideation you have past that point of shadow, be it religion or nihilism or panpsychism or determinism, but I hope that whatever idea you have faith in brings you solace and makes those dark forms in shadow less daunting.

The problem comes, when you chose to be in the dark about something and apply faith-based arguments where light has already been shed, or when you use apparitions you made up as an excuse to do harm to others.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

The drawing of him kicking in the door is hilarious.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Some people just can't handle being released from Plato's cave.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

delivering someone from a lifetime of sexual and gender oppression, and eliminating their need to tithe a portion of their income to an organization that hides and protects pedophiles and rapists?

Mom's on the floor weeping with joy.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not every member of a church experiences those things first hand.

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[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm an atheist but I understand that religion and/or faith makes a lot of people happy and I don't want to take that happiness away from them.

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[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago

These comments sure are something, eh?

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Religion may be a lie but it's a comforting lie and that helps a lot of people get through their daily life.

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[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That looks like a healthy cry. She will go through much self reflection and come about as a better person.

Nope! She has spent her life with a religious as her backbone and now will seek it as a crutch with greater desparation. Trauma...survival mode...etc...

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