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[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 197 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (17 children)
  1. It’s $80
  2. It’s on Gamespass, where I assume a lot of doom fans who might have otherwise purchased are likely to be.
  3. It’s shouldered up against Expedition 33 and Oblivion Remake, both over $20 cheaper and highly acclaimed.
  4. It’s $80
  5. (Edit) shitty DRM
[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 105 points 4 days ago (7 children)
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Mostly this. I’m not paying for something that comes with malware. Not for $80, $20, or $1. Nobody should pay for malware.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

The DRM kept me from buying it

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 127 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Seeing how they screwed over Mick Gordon, the composer for the previous two installments, I'll vote with my wallet and skip this one. My backlog is big enough as it is anyway.

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[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 93 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Marty Stratton and his denuvo riddled pos game can kindly get fukt after what he did to Mick Gordon, the composer of the banger soundtrack for Doom 2016.

https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Holy fucking shit! I live under the rock in the middle of nowhere so I've heard only some brief parts of "something wrong with DOOM Eternal music" but nothing factual. Now I gave the time to read the whole article and I'm speechless. 'Cause this is bad, really, really, REALLY bad. I feel sorry for people that have to work and live under such assholes like Marty obviously is...

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago

Yea, I read that a few weeks ago and it convinced to not touch Doom TDA. I mean, maybe pirate it, but certainly not buy it.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 14 points 4 days ago

Wow. I already wasn't going to buy any more Bethesda slop, but now I'm not going to buy it twice.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 115 points 4 days ago (24 children)

meant to mislead potential players into thinking the game is successful when, in fact, it's severely underperforming behind the scenes.

Why would a player in a single-player game give a tiny shit about how popular it is? It's the investor class that cares about that; stop treating their interests as a natural good.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well it has Denuvo... I wasn't buying that shit

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[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 88 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

Let's see

  • The game itself takes away a lot of pieces of the formula that made 2016 and Eternal so good
  • $80 price tag
  • BDS boycott
  • Denuvo

I'm shocked that it's not selling, absolutely shocked.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And also, for some of us:

  • Boycott due to Mick Gordon's treatment.
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[–] trslim@pawb.social 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Forcing raytracing is a great way to close off a bunch of customers.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Not just because some people don't have it either, but for anything with RTX2000/3000 and RDNA2, Forced RT is just forced low framerate.

I hope making everyone dynamically draw the lights and shadows in realtime for a linear game was worth the 15c it saved on Microsoft's electricity bill for not pre-baking overnight.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In the UK its £70 ($95) for the base game and £100 ($135) for the full game. Bethesda go fuck yourself.

Edit: Title is somewhat dishonest, it has over 3M players. Just that most are on gamepass. Still not buying it though.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.

Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?

Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.

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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just barely convinced myself to spend €80 on a single game, then noticed Denuvo. Hard pass

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[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I don‘t buy any digital copy of a game for over 45 bucks, doesn‘t matter what it is… I also haven‘t finished DOOM 2016 yet and haven‘t even started Eternal. Not because they‘re bad games or because I don‘t like FPSs, but because I have so much shit to play and so little time.

Competition is fierce and asking 80 bucks when I got the predecessors for less than 5 each is just not happening. Just because games cost more to produce doesn‘t magically make customers have more money and time. It‘ll make release weeks stinkers outside of your GOTYs and makes more people wait or go back to 20+ years worth of other games that aren‘t 80 bucks.

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[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 9 points 3 days ago

After Eternal, I’m not interested in this one. 2016 was fantastic, but Eternal felt all over the place. It tried to tell a story but skipped the entire second "book" between the two games, making it feel unfinished trilogy.

Then there’s the difficulty, easy was too easy, and normal was too hard. I shouldn’t have to choose between surviving 10+ hits (easy) or dying in 3-4 (normal). That’s not balance. And I don’t have the time to ‘git gud’ when the difficulty jump is this extreme.

Considering they already had to tweak difficulty in The Dark Ages, it looks like they’re still struggling to get the scaling right

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 61 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's also 80€ in Europe. Everyone I talked to is waiting for the price to drop, including me.

[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's £70 in the uk, that's $95 while in the us it costs $70, which is £50. Xbox did the same thing with the new call of duty, their regional pricing is so braindead.

Historically AAA games have been £10 less than the us counter part ($60 games were £50) and making this change is so stupid.

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 28 points 4 days ago

Game is 70$ on Steam US and has a very positive review. That is still too much money unless this is a game you were really looking forward to.

[–] TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 19 points 4 days ago

AAA gaming is dead. Indies have been carrying gaming for years now.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I would have bought it if it didn't have denuvo. I'll wait til its stripped out.

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (5 children)

there's a gorillion reasons why it isnt doing so hot, but i could make a few uneducated guesses. one, gamepass subscriptions, which obfuscate the data and has sent multiple studios to the grave even when they had moderate success. two, the economy is terrible in the US and getting worse by the day, making a $70+ game not an appealing purchase. three, maybe the Boycott Divestment Sanctions protest is having some effect.

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 7 points 3 days ago

DOOM 16 was fantastic, but eternal felt gross. It was a huge step back from 2016, and didn't feel fun. I'm not bothering with the newer games since they essentially are going off gimmicks.

[–] Kurious84@eviltoast.org 14 points 4 days ago

I tell ya I se 70 bucks for a game when everything is small and you get no value for your dollar and everything costs more. No thanks.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I didn't even look at it enough to know if I'd buy it otherwise when I saw it has denuvo. Always online DRM is a hard pass for me. I haven't played the last 3 games Atlus released either and I've been playing almost every one since the ps2 era.

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[–] nawa@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not sure about hardcore Doom fans but the game looks uninteresting to me specifically. It's like a polar opposite from Doom 2016 judging by all the videos I've seen. Don't really care about the higher price, I'd get it if I liked it but it really doesn't click for me.

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[–] xangadix@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

I'm one of the biggest fans of the DOOM franchise, I've played all the versions since the original one in 1993. But I don't care if I play it now or in half a year. Or a year for that matter. Never really understood why having it first matters to anyone. I'll be here when the prices drop.

I was stupid enough to buy Spacemarine 2, when it came out, at full price (mostly because I loved Boltgun so much) and that was a great lesson about how you should wait around a bit before actually buying a game. It would have been a fun game for 15 or even 20 euro, but it's not worth 70 euro. I Should have bought Helldivers, anyway 😓

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

On GamePass though, isn't it? Only people actually buying would be on PS5 and the neversub gang.

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