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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You communists are all the same, you say you want to overthrow capitalism but without capitalism who would make your masks to overthrow capitalism?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.

― Vladimir Ilich Lenin


This comment is not legal advice.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sell the people torches and pitchforks, which they promptly use to stab and char you. As they say, sell them shovels in a gold rush.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except today, it would be a shovel that is designed to break at around 100 uses so that you have to come back to buy a new shovel every few days or so.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

You rent the shovel and it's geotagged to your region.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

Nah see, the trick is to first convince the buyers other average people are the enemy. Double the sales, none of the consequences.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Great quote, gotta keep that one in pocket for when this “hypocrisy” is pointed out every few days

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Shut the fuck up, Donny, you're out of your element

[–] klao@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

I think the earliest documented version of this quote (1955 October 31, The Commonwealth: Official Journal of the Commonwealth Club of California) is more intriguing:

Lenin wrote, “When it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will vie with each other for the rope contract.”

—Major George Racey Jordan

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

Checkmate libturds!

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Curious. I am very intelligent

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[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 77 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's got a point, but capitalists will also gladly sell you every tool you need to overthrow them as long as you have the money for it.

Nearly 150 million adults in the USA can go buy a semi auto rifle right now, even if their plan is to point it at Colt and Smith and Wesson.

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

That’s because the people selling the guns are the same selling the bullshit news that keeps everyone too stupid to know they’re in a dictatorship

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Your point is valid but I think your figure is high.

There's a handful of states you'd need to have a permit which you can't get right away.

There's also the cost. Depending on where you look anywhere from 30% to 75% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck or are one large unexpected expense away from catastrophe. They likely don't have the expendable income to go spends hundreds on a firearm at any given moment.

This is why, even though there's somewhere between 300-500 million civilian owned firearms in the US, those firearms are owned by roughly 32% of the adult population in the country.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm speaking specifically about how many Americans have the legal ability to buy these weapons. The cost involved is why I added the "if they have the money" line.

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I'm speaking especially about the Americans that have the legal ability to buy these weapons.

I get that but there's about 258.3 adults in the US 18 or older, 196.8 adults 21 or older (some jurisdictions require a buyer to be 21).

If we apply the most conservative estimate of 30% of adults living paycheck to paycheck that leaves 180.81 million 18 or over adults, or 137.76 21 or over adults.

Averaging the 2 numbers gives us 159.285 million which is right in the ballpark of your estimate but we'd still have to account for the 32% that already own all the guns (there will be some overlap) and anybody precluded from owning a firearm (criminal record, active TRO/OFP etc.) and anybody who has to get a government issued permit first.

That's why, while I agree with your point, I think your estimate is high at 150 million.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

There's also the cost.

Hi-Point: The hole-puncher for the common folk.

Or auction house AK variants. Or strike old school fear into fascism with a Mosin Nagant or an M1 Garand (ping!).

Lol memes aside (and not judging!) there's hardware to fill the need at all price points. It's the ammo that's hard to keep up with! Also, safety (and skill) training could be a lot more universally accessible and applied.

The time to gain familiarity and proficiency is also a severely limiting factor, and of course the working class have less and less of it.

I think our general attitude and understanding about firearms (in the U.S/"West") has been intentionally poisoned into some bizarre right-wing fetish thing specifically to make sure level-headed, educated, reasonable people who weren't ultra-capitalists wouldn't be the group statistically holding a stupidly unholy amount of them.

I guess my point is: Capitalism will sell you whatever you like. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have a vetting process for its preferred audience. It simply adjusts the culture to make the very idea revolting to those it would prefer not selling to, and amplifying the signal to stupidly comical degrees to its target audience.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder if there's anything else you could 3d print that would help fight against corporate greed?

[–] mriormro@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Is it... is it this?

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Ha! I'm already doing this. I have an account on a t-shirt vendor site where I upload some low effort anti-capitalism design every week. I dont make much money but I giggle my balls off that people buy it. Like a Che Guevara t-shirt from Hot Topic in the 90s... Some people just dont get irony.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Commerce isn't the same thing as capitalism.

[–] mriormro@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

You're giving off this kind of energy, dawg

[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 week ago

Plus IME they don't really know anything about Che...

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Remember when Trump first got elected and Anonymous just suddenly vanished?

[–] Ideonek@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

I'm sure you are implying something. But what? I'm genuinely asking.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What are you talking about. They did some hacker shit when he got elected. A lot of it is Ukraine and Israel related.

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember when Trump first got elected and ~~Anonymous~~ absolutely everything just suddenly vanished?

Now it's only Trump this, trump that... all the time, your comment as an example, so if he didn't say anything about anonymous then no one has heard anything about them.

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[–] piefood@feddit.online 5 points 1 week ago

No, I don't. In fact, their wikipedia page shows activity up to 2022

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The original group got busted years before that.

[–] klao@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People love gaslightning and trying to make things sound like a conspiracy, ever since the fall of Lulz it has sort of "died" you'd see a lot happening both to governments and companies now it's just mostly going after governments, I'd not be surprised if it was just foreign intel agencies to not take the blame for leaking

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[–] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

They're going after the anger dollar, that's a good dollar. We've done research.

[–] chrizzly@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A fitting soundtrack for that message would be 'Surprise surprise' by Billy Talent (lyrics wise).

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also a great track by a great band

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[–] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I first found out about them through their collab with the lead singer of Weezer and they've quickly become one of my new favorite bands

[–] chrizzly@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nice! You must be talking about 'end of me' then haha. Funny, for me its kind of the other way round, knew/liked BT for some time and then getting more into Weezer. Saw BT live once in 2022 and can recommend 100%. Will see them again for sure (and Weezer already just around the corner next month).

[–] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn. I’m jealous. I saw Weezer live last October and I’d kill to see them in person again lol. I’ve been meaning to see BT in person too so maybe I’ll try and see them next

[–] chrizzly@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Awesome, must've been quite the experience - I'm pretty hyped for Weezer, too :D Especially when they play the full blue album. Hope both bands will continue touring in the future!

[–] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the Blue Planet tour was awesome, I liked that it had a loose plotline to follow. i'm assuming they're continuing it for when you go to see them but it's definitely well worth the experience. I hope you have fun!

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[–] RevolverSly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

We're legion, expect us

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
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