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Rep. Matt Gaetz introduced legislation that would end birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to non-citizen parents. Currently, the 14th Amendment grants citizenship to all born in the U.S., including children of undocumented immigrants and those on temporary visas. However, Gaetz claims this has enabled fraud and misrepresentation, with estimates of 33,000 births annually to women on tourist visas. While the Supreme Court has upheld birthright citizenship, experts say a president cannot end it through executive action alone. Gaetz's bill aims to preserve the "sanctity of American citizenship" by ensuring it is earned through legal migration.

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[–] circularfish@beehaw.org 53 points 1 year ago

This screams "white panic"

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They can't think this would withstand legitimate supreme court scrutiny. Though with the current court maybe they've got a longterm plan to delegitimize the supreme court entirely. Can't make heads or tails of these antics. Given current events and the state of the climate it's hard to believe any of these institutions think they'll be around long. Guess everyone's just clowning for the cheap seats at this point.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Supreme Court is already delegitimized.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

you're right. kinda feels like we're just hanging out waiting to die though. can't see any way that any of this goes in any good directions.

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

That court is a strange thing. One dies and another one rises. It’s like kings

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

it's true... just a bit hard to process how that goes from here. haven't sorted out the tools to properly discuss it without sounding like i'm just waiting around to die.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You mention of a reasonable and logical court, but we have a fascist Christian right hate filled court that doesn't give two shits about precedence or ethics right now that would absolutely support this anti immigrant take.

[–] skellener@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let’s end his term in office instead. Vote every GOP out of office in the next election.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Yup, instead of dealing with the shit coming out of the hose, let's just turn off the hose.

[–] Irv@midwest.social 20 points 1 year ago

This is unconstitutional and based on incorrect comprehension of the 14th amendment. Gaetz is specifically leaning on the "and subject to" part in "born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

However, this is clearly referring to exclude children born to diplomats who are not subject to jurisdiction because of diplomatic immunity. The exclusion does not apply to children born to undocumented immigrants.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be better if he introduced some legislation that said if you partake in child abuse, through interstate underage sex trafficking, or don't report or do anything about sexual abuse taking place in sports that you oversee, that you can't be a Congressman. Wish in one hand, and shit in the other.

It would be crazy if they actually get the votes to change The Constitution for this. I can't see it happening. But I've said that too many times and been wrong over the past almost decade or so.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

Don't need to change the constitution if you can get your council of unelected elders to decide it always meant what you wish it said.

[–] Five@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

What a garbage person.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

Can't wait for the follow up legislation of, "If you're not worth at least $5 million, are you really an American?"

[–] vraylle@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Will it be retroactive? Without birthright citizenship can we just kick people like him out? One can dream....

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

AKA the "fuck you,I got mine" bill

[–] Shhalahr@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

So he's saying that non citizens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US? So they all get diplomatic immunity?

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I unironically support this.

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