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[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 27 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

TLDR:

The Trump administration barred Harvard from enrolling or retaining international students, accusing the school of fostering antisemitism, violence, and ties to China.

DHS revoked Harvard’s student visa program certification, forcing current foreign students to transfer or lose status.

A federal judge temporarily blocked the administration from acting against current students.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 178 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Since when does the executive branch control what universities do with enrollment?

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The private university can enroll whoever they want, but the executive branch literally controls immigration/foreign affairs. So the students can attend remotely.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The president cannot just order someone to be deported, it has to available under legislation. Not that the law matters anymore.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago) (1 children)

Didn’t you hear. Habeas Corpus means the president has the power to deport whoever he wants.


for reference

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

It's in the Constitution! /S

[–] rslogix89@lemmy.world 90 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

When it tries to be a wannabe fascist.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 49 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Slowly becoming less wannabe and more gonna be.

[–] TheLemming@lemm.ee 31 points 21 hours ago

Not even gonna be, we're there.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

By denying all student visas

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 36 points 23 hours ago

They can deny student visas

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 110 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I never cared much for Harvard, the elitism, legacy enrollments, and all things snooty about it.

I have to say that they are they're crushing it on their defiance against this regime.

The Dean over at Columbia should take notes.

[–] Neuromorph@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

As snobby as it it is. It hosts all aspects of society. Harvard law school has a trap and skeet team that's very pro 2A. On its own it's not too shocking. But this is in very Blue Massachusetts.

Similar to how MIT has pistol and rifle clubs.

You have the opportunity to share various hobbies and political leanings all in a bubble of elitism.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Of the schools that can afford to mount a defense, it's Harvard.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 25 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

They all can mount a defense.

No one is required to comply with nonsense.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They're saying they have lots of money and competent lawyers.

In order to win in US courts, you need lots of money and good lawyers. Harvard has more money and lawyers than basically any Uni in the US

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I see.

You were assuming I meant resisting through arguing and legal proceedings, which this regime has complete contempt for.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 13 hours ago

Exactly, and by all mounting a defence, none are singles out.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

Every single Ivy League school and many prestigious (like top 75ish) schools in America have an “endowment” worth x amount but also a whole separate money cannon if you piss off the alumni. I don’t donate directly to my university but I would if Trump came for them. And I’m, sadly, not a billionaire but they exist.

You can tell I’m not a billionaire because if I were, I wouldn’t be posting on this broke ass web site. I’d be off the coast of the Riviera in the hot tub on my yacht getting a foot massage from a mysterious, ethereal beauty known only as “La Marionnette.” (I’d have a team of old timey whalers to fend off the Orca attacks. I’m not as stupid as a real billionaire.)

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

You can do a lot of shit with 50 Billy in the bank. Other schools don't have the luxury. Which is a separate and more concerning problem.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

50 Billy

I'm curious. Is this a new term, a thing Australians say, a reference from some media I missed, or just something that's fun to say?

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

50 billion dollars is how much the Harvard endowment is worth. Money they can draw from for any reason including to hire the best Harvard lawyers to fight the government with or to pay ongoing costs of drinking the school of the government takes away any money they were previously giving the school. Other schools don't have this type of money so they have to do what the government says or cease to exist.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Bending the knee is for wimps.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I will not bend the knee

[–] lazyViking@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago

So much for the "private" in the private sector lol

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 63 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

If Harvard gives in, Trump will do this again.

Harvard is better off with the damage being done than by giving up things it doesn't have to give up and still having the damage done at a later point.

I can only imagine how many foreign-born lawyers exist among their alumni, who care personally enough about this matter to fight pro-bono.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 31 points 22 hours ago

They're in it for the long-haul. If they roll over now they'll absolutely get crushed. Letting people and organizations get away with defiance, even for a moment, is weakness and authoritarians can't ever appear weak.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 56 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Is this a small government?

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 26 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

God, I am not even from the US, but it makes me so mad... Fuck each and every Republican voter for voting for that mf!!

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

There's quite few of them. Dont fall for their propaganda trying to divide and conquer

Point the finger at the plutocrats. Establish a democracy.

Trump is deeply unpopular and never would have stolen power if we had a democracy.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 22 points 22 hours ago

It's incredible how thoroughly the US is self-destructing, especially when it comes to its soft-power

[–] CM400@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

DHS said that in addition to barring enrollment of future international students, "existing foreign students must transfer to lose their legal status." The revocation, which DHS said was the result of "pro-terrorist conduct," was first reported by The New York Times.

What does it mean that they “must transfer to lose”? Is she saying if they transfer they lose their status and that that transfer is being forced, or that they must transfer or lose it?

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Typo? "or* lose..."

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Tell us where the talking llama is and we’ll burn your house to the ground!

Uh, don't you mean 'or'?

Ugh! Tell us where the talking llama is or we’ll burn your house to the ground!

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

It reads like they are saying a student would have to transfer to lose status. So current students are fine, but if they transfer their visa is revoked.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

trump has a miserably tiny pee pee

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh not you, bro. No, yours is mighty and tiny. Not miserable at all. Unless you’re a corrupt demented rapist and didn’t mention that part.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Ah I see, thanks

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

just when i think they cannot get any lower.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Hold my beer!

[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 1 points 22 hours ago

DHS said that in addition to barring enrollment of future international students, “existing foreign students must transfer to lose their legal status.”