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    [โ€“] notthebees@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

    I'd like to talk about the secret third option, escape.

    [โ€“] tal@lemmy.today 18 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    On my system, I can just run

    $ sudo systemctl reboot --firmware-setup
    

    And it'll take the system to the BIOS.

    From the systemctl(1) man page:

       --firmware-setup
           When used with the reboot, poweroff, or halt
           command, indicate to the system's firmware to
           reboot into the firmware setup interface for the
           next boot. Note that this functionality is not
           available on all systems.
    
           Added in version 220.
    
       --boot-loader-menu=timeout
           When used with the reboot, poweroff, or halt
           command, indicate to the system's boot loader to
           show the boot loader menu on the following boot.
           Takes a time value as parameter โ€” indicating the
           menu timeout. Pass zero in order to disable the
           menu timeout. Note that not all boot loaders
           support this functionality.
    
           Added in version 242.
    [โ€“] notthebees@reddthat.com 3 points 1 hour ago

    But that requires me to boot into an os first. I do use it but if it's off then it feels redundant.

    [โ€“] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

    Is there anything systemd can't do?!

    [โ€“] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

    Me pressing Del like Im Rowan Atkinson at the 2012 Olympics

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwzjlmBLfrQ

    [โ€“] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 49 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    I've been buying Gigabyte and pressing "DEL" since 1998.

    It's insane that there is no accepted UX standard for this.

    [โ€“] Bezier@suppo.fi 32 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    The keys should be standard and work if just held down.

    [โ€“] groet@feddit.org 5 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

    I dont know enough about electronics to say for certain but I think Holding down the key doesn't work from a technical standpoint. If you press it down before the relevant stage of the boot process is running there might not actually run any code to even detect the key press. And holding down a key doesn't continuously send new keypresses. Only "key down" and "key released".

    But 100% agree on the standardised key. And it should be something that ia on every keyboard and not behind an alternative funktion! No alt/shift/fn. Just make it enter or something!

    [โ€“] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

    If you press it down before the relevant stage of the boot process is running there might not actually run any code to even detect the key press.

    I think I have seen it work on several machines, but stopped doing it because often it does not

    [โ€“] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    Keyboards don't run like that. The keyboard itself does not know when a key is pressed. They poll the keys and send a message when they find one that is depressed

    [โ€“] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
    [โ€“] Bezier@suppo.fi 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    PS2 is hardly used in consumer products these days.

    [โ€“] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 36 minutes ago

    aren't most internal laptop keyboards ps2?

    [โ€“] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

    yep, on ps2 keyboards this is the case

    [โ€“] dabster291@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 hours ago

    Actually, holding down the key does work!

    [โ€“] dabster291@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

    work if just held down

    They do!

    [โ€“] Bezier@suppo.fi 11 points 3 hours ago

    On some machines.

    [โ€“] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 30 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    With sequel "The Escape or F12โ€œ coming to theaters Fall 2025.

    [โ€“] jaybone@lemmy.zip 18 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

    I have one that uses f8.

    Would have been nice if they could have standardized this like 30 years ago. Or at least just label the key.

    On unfamiliar machines, I just faceroll over the function keys hoping to hit the right one..

    [โ€“] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

    ALL the keys, not just BIOS. PXE, hardware test, all of it. And a button to pause at the screen listing them all.

    [โ€“] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

    Thinkpads use Enter for some reason. My laptop uses Escape.

    [โ€“] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 hours ago

    Mine uses F8 for the boot picker

    Plot twist: It was INS the whole time.

    [โ€“] Matriks404@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

    Why can't they make a universal freakin' dedicated button to enter UEFI?

    [โ€“] iSeth@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

    Lenovos have those, but it's not very obvious.

    [โ€“] el_bhm@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    Best I can do is Alexa button.

    [โ€“] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 hours ago

    ๐Ÿคฎ

    [โ€“] lnxtx@feddit.nl 9 points 6 hours ago

    Me pressing F1, F2, DEL, Enter, ... to be sure.

    [โ€“] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 10 points 8 hours ago

    FU Dell BIOS and your F11 b/s.

    [โ€“] egonallanon@lemm.ee 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    You know you can just hold the button down right?

    [โ€“] Matriks404@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    Sometimes it doesn't work though. If you start to hold the enter-the-uefi-setup button too early it might not do anything. And mashing the keys sometimes don't work either.

    This shit gives me headaches sometimes. ESPECIALLY WHEN FUCKING WINDOWS STARTS TO BOOT UP.

    [โ€“] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

    This Trick took better timing and more skill than all the rest of the movies combined.

    [โ€“] Blackjeans9@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

    F in chat for family