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[–] chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If she jettisons neoliberalism and takes a stand against genocide and imperialism she could begin to make a difference.

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[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 48 points 15 hours ago (31 children)

Disagree. The Democrats dont know who they are anymore. Pelosi and the old Democrats have got to go.

AOC should just make a new party.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 11 points 12 hours ago

You're not really disagreeing. AOC is perceived as the face of the democratic party and it's true. She's at least offering consistent resistance while the feckless leadership of the party does nothing but line their pockets and ensure 100 percent unconditional support of Israel to the determient of all else.

I don't even disagree with your conclusions necessary, if it's impossible to dislodge Pelosi and Schumer. But building a party from scratch is really fucking hard. Hijacking one might be easier.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They're going to stay there making bank off of insider trading until they're so ancient someone accidentally walks through and disperses the dust cloud known as Pelosi, and they finally decide they have enough money to reach supply-side Jesus.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Just insider trading? Those super pacs are the fucking Democrats and Republicans at this point. Greed itself is our new overlord, business ethics are dead and rotting.

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

So the Dems are running the campaign for JD Vance now? Wow, easiest election ever

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 12 points 15 hours ago

There is no more Democratic Party.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (7 children)

I have said this elsewhere, but i will not again vote for the Democratic Party until they actually put up progressive candidates. Not pinky swear to pass progressive policy. That means the candidates has to have a provable history of struggling against the Democratic Party to pass progressive policy. There are only two i know of and that’s Bernie Sanders (who is too old for the presidency), and AOC. Else it’s third party until the democrats learn better.

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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We could do so much worse!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

We will do so much worse. AOC lost a committee seat race to a guy with terminal cancer who is dead four months after taking the position.

The people might love her, but the party hates her. AOC has no future in the modern Democratic party.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Well... Yeah, that's why we're taking it over. What do you think all the tours and rallies are for? The fight is on, actual progressives and opportunity chasers are positioning themselves for it... It's happening

It's tea party time

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Not that public visibility isn't important, but if we don't replace the people in the room choosing who the party gives all their money to, nothing is going to change.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Money for campaigns is important, but it's a force multiplier. If there is no force of voters to multiply, it is worthless.

Also those people in the back rooms are going to have a lot less money to throw around now, big donors don't want to give their money to campaigns that have no chance of winning, what good good is buying influence with a politician if that politician has no influence to sell? I don't think all that money will flow over to progressives suddenly, but the gap in budget is going to be much smaller now.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 6 points 11 hours ago

Of course - they certainly have to be replaced.

That's what the struggle over the dnc vice chair position is about - someone won who wants to use funds to primary representatives "asleep at the wheel", so they're pulling out procedural reasons to redo it

There's a plan... It's not a sure thing, but it's building a lot of momentum

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