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The DNC cited a procedural concern, but Hogg said it is “impossible to ignore the broader context” of his criticisms.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

I admire Hogg for trying to change things from the inside, as it were, but the DNC is definitely complicit in our current slide into authoritarianism. Until they wake up and embrace the progressive movement championed by Bernie and AOC, I have little hope for the mainstream democratic party

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I guess the C in DNC stands for Corporation. The corporation doesn't like when underlings call them out on their bullshit

[–] mriormro@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

It mostly stands for 'Cunts' at this point cause that's what most of them are.

Fucking moderates, man. We're slowly walking towards some dumb, horrifying shit.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I guess the C in DNC stands for Corporation.

Or simply Corruption.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The DNC is the primary reason we live under an authoritarian manbaby, Hogg isn't wrong

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We can't stand up to Trump, but we can stand up to this kid telling us to do our jobs.

There needs to be an age and income bracket limit for people in government service, these rich geriatric fucks are going to get us all killed.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

We can’t stand up to Trump, but we can stand up to this kid telling us to do our jobs.

Elder liberals telling younger voters/activists to STFU and get in line, then blaming them when turnout sags and conservative democrats lose purple seats, is the tragedy of the modern era.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We can’t stand up to Trump, but we can stand up to this kid telling us to do our jobs.

Holy shit, yes! I'd take it a step further and say "we can't stand up to Trump, but we can stand up to anyone pushing us to be an actual opposition". Ten democrats joined the republicans in voting to censure Al Green for having the absolute audacity to yell at the guy shredding the constitution instead of sitting quietly until leaving quietly while wearing a #resist shirt.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the primary reason is all of the fascists, but sure neoliberalism and inevitable decline etc

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

This sums up my feelings about the fate of the Democratic party.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Clearer Reason as to the main issue:

David Hogg Into the Spotlight

Into these discussions has stormed the 25-year-old Hogg, who has positioned himself as the man capable of steering the Democrats back on course using lessons learned from their recent losses.

Hogg has criticized his own party for what he views as an alienating stance toward men, and cited the perceived obsession with cultural issues as a major factor in the Republicans' 2024 victories.

"What I think happened last election is younger men—they would rather vote for somebody who they don't completely agree with, they don't feel judged by, than somebody who they do agree with, that they feel like they have to walk on eggshells around," Hogg said during a recent appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher.

Hogg was again thrust into the center of this internal debate after his election to vice chair was deemed to have violated DNC bylaws which encourage gender parity among the party leadership. DNC member Kalyn Free, who lost to Hogg in February and brought the challenge against his victory, said that the committee improperly tallied votes and failed "to distinguish between gender categories in a meaningful way." In doing so, she argued, it "violated its own charter and bylaws, undermining both fairness and gender diversity."

To some, this seemed like irony—the party voiding Hogg's election based on gender-based requirements, after he had criticized it for an overt focus on gender issues. To Hogg it also sniffed of retribution for his wider attempt to recalibrate the Democrats' focus and party makeup.

Source: https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-dnc-election-david-hogg-2072004

[–] polyamorypagan69@lemm.ee 48 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

The DNC is only another wing of the fascist corporatocracy /Kleptocracy /plutocracy their only function is to protect the capitalis that keeps them in power.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

2016 primaries were awful. DNC super delegates kept Sanders out, showing the worst aspects of super delegates. Establishment GOP couldn't keep Trump out, showing the worst aspects of a lack of super delegates.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That single act doomed us. Bernie would have smoked trump so hard his kids would have changed their name

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The supreme court picking George Bush as the winner over Al Gore doomed us.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The first election I ever voted in and I was from South Florida at the time.

I was one of the votes discarded due to 'hanging chads'

Cynicism began early in me

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Failing Reconstruction doomed us.

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nixon not hanging from a noose caused the split in the timeline. His pardon happened around the time when Bernstein Bearenstein bears happened.

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[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

That is why I get pissed off at the people who blame nonvoters for Trump and say blue no matter who. No. That kind of thinking it’s what lead down this path in the first place. You don’t keep participating in a corrupt system hoping it will get better. You destroy the system

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Nah, that's probably the only thing I applaud the RNC for. It was very clear that Trump was not their choice, but when their voters spoke, the RNC shrugged and said "alright, let's party." Where the DNC endlessly schemes and plots and weasels its way into running the footgun. Democrat voters groan "no, not the footgun again! What the fuck are you doing?!" And the DNC says "look, you don't understand, it's the footgun's turn, they've earned it. We just need to compromise and blow our legs off one last time. Now is just not the right time to not blow our legs off. Americans just won't vote for not blowing our legs off. And, I mean, what are they going to do? Vote for the guy with legs? Lol, lmao. Now hand me that gun."

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They argued the same thing in the NY 2016 primary case. You know... the one where 120,000 people in King's County just randomly got bumped off voter rolls a few weeks before the primaries with no recourse for registration.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

more or less the same donors as the gop, they arnt different, the only reason some of them are EVEN dems is that they are not right wing enough to be palatable to republican voters. they also make backdoor deals often, it was pretty obvious when mitch was still in control of the senate.

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[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This whole situation is best summed up by this. If they were putting this much effort into fighting for the actual working class issues they would have won the previous election... Make of that what you will.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democrats aren't, and never were, a working class party

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[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

[Indeed, Hogg’s PAC, Leaders We Deserve, recently announced an initiative to fund young primary challengers in Democratic races.]

Hey that is pretty cool. We need lots more people like Hogg and AOC and Sanders.

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

First, they came for all the motherfucking politicans. Then they came for the lobbyists, then the CEOs and billionaires and the propagandists and the corrupt judges. And if they haven't been beheaded yet, they had peace happily ever after!

[–] 7empest@beehaw.org 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump is on a mission to crash our economy, disappear people without due process, and participate in flagrant public corruption — and voters still trust him more than Democrats,” Hogg said in his statement. “That is a massive indictment of our party.”

Thats a damning statement

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s damned accurate.

I trust Trump to be trump. I don’t trust the DNC to calculate a tip

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's right. There's no two ways about it, and I think it's nuts that you've got DNC enjoyers out here basically being like "okay, but you're being stupid, I swear if we just ran Hillary/Biden ticket in '28 and campaigned on only some tax cuts for billionaires and only partial suspension of Habeus Corpus, we'd win"

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 50 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Proving him right, by doing more to stop him from running than they're doing to stop the fascist takeover

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 70 points 2 days ago

Finally! The DNC is finally taking action against the...oh never mind.

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