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Stating the raw value of the house will only make naysayers throw inflation into your face.
The better way of saying that would be,
buy a detached SFH for only 4× annual minimum wage
Like, really drive it home how absolutely unaffordable homes are these days. In my corner of Canada, the median detached SFH is going for 28× minimum wage, and it’s 32× if it’s new construction. My own 1972 split level sold brand-new for only 4× the 1972 minimum wage.
Jesus in today money that's 60k for a house. For a nice hours our parents bought
Just shows you how low minimum wage is.
"single family home" means more than "detached sfh"
I would still take my life over my mom's. Things were not good for women back then.
Did she starve to death? Because that’s our current timeline
It’s getting comparable… women are being charged with murder for totally natural miscarriages. Imagine ending up in prison for decades for something you had absolutely no control over.
And women are also dying from preventable issues with pregnancy, because it is illegal for doctors to remove fetuses even when they are a direct threat to the mother’s life (ectopic) or even totally dead in the first place.
America is becoming exceedingly hostile to anyone not white, cis, and male.
If it makes you feel any better it still feels pretty hostile to me as well.
Well she was around before birth control was legal or widely available, and before abortion was legal. Yeah I agree the US is getting more hostile but nobody at my work is asking me to get the coffee, or saying women can't do the job. And raised 4 kids while doing a dissertation, widowed when the youngest was not even a teen yet.
I don't think now is great but it's better in a lot of ways.
I agree that things were bad back then but my point is things are about to become much much worse. We will all be looking back wishing we could go back in time. Our future is bleak and you’ll be lucky to not starve to death in the coming years.
The future looks less bleak when the goal is not to live the life of that generation. There is AI, there are mobile phones, there is solar power and many more things.
When things are expensive, it means that few resources are used. This is good for the environment.
The big difference is that communication is free. We can talk to almost anybody in the world. This is still a huge untapped potential. That generation had a good life, but ours can be better.
Fuck LLMs and mainstream phones OSes
And then bitch and moan when anything doesn't go absolutely perfectly in their favor.
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/voting-and-registration/p20-370.html
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-1980
Boomers weren't the ones who elected Reagan, they were at most 35 at the time.
That's the president that started to fuck things up and it was just the same as usual, older people being more conservative, younger people not showing up to vote.
I will not stand for this Nixon erasure
Both your links gave me 404 errors
They were almost all able to vote in 1980 at 16- 34, and made up a large portion of the population then in 84 they were all able to vote and saw what actions he took the previous election and voted for him more…
Copypaste for you:
| 1980 | Group | Carter | Reagan | Anderson | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| TOTAL | All Voters | Pct. | 41% | 51% | 8% | |
| SEX | Men | 51 | 38 | 55 | 7 | |
| Women | 49 | 46 | 47 | 7 | ||
| RACE | White | 88 | 36 | 56 | 8 | |
| African-American | 10 | 83 | 14 | 3 | ||
| Hispanic | 2 | 56 | 37 | 7 | ||
| AGE | 18-21 | 6 | 45 | 44 | 11 | |
| 22-29 | 17 | 44 | 44 | 11 | ||
| 30-44 | 31 | 38 | 55 | 7 | ||
| 45-59 | 23 | 39 | 55 | 6 | ||
| 60 & over | 18 | 41 | 55 | 4 | ||
| INCOME | <$10,000 | 13 | 52 | 42 | 6 | |
| $10 -14,999 | 14 | 48 | 43 | 8 | ||
| $15-24,999 | 30 | 39 | 54 | 7 | ||
| $25-50,000 | 24 | 33 | 59 | 8 | ||
| >$50,000 | 5 | 26 | 66 | 8 | ||
| UNION HOUSEHOLD | Yes | 26 | 48 | 45 | 7 | |
| No | 62 | 36 | 56 | 8 | ||
| REGION | East | 32 | 44 | 48 | 8 | |
| Midwest | 20 | 42 | 52 | 6 | ||
| South | 27 | 45 | 52 | 3 | ||
| West | 11 | 36 | 54 | 10 | ||
| PARTY | Democrat | 43 | 67 | 27 | 6 | |
| Republican | 28 | 11 | 85 | 4 | ||
| Independent | 23 | 31 | 56 | 13 | ||
| POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY | Liberal | 17 | 60 | 28 | 1 | |
| Moderate | 46 | 43 | 49 | 8 | ||
| Conservative | 28 | 23 | 73 | 4 |
Notes: Survey by CBS News and the New York Times. Sample of 15,201 voters as they left voting booths on Election Day, November 4, 1980. “Don’t know” and “other” responses not included.
And then in 1984 they voted for Reagan even more
peace out
Spend their retirement calling the cafeteria staff at Luby’s racial slurs and saying trans kids and drag queens are evil.
And voting for people that will make everyone's life hell and ensure that no one else will ever get to experience the quality of life that they did.
Not to sound ageist, but I firmly believe voting privileges should be revoked when you retire.
I would think that removing the barriers to voting that affect younger voters is the better option, along with getting rid of the electoral college and allowing felons to vote. Taking away voting rights for certain classes of citizens is a slippery slope, especially when the root problem is some votes count more than others and many potential votes never make it to the polls.
they way leaders emerge from certain personalities, and get so corrupted, i think we'd be better off with random selection.
THIS is the way. Make political service be similar to jury duty.
If you need to wait 18 years to vote you shouldn't be able to vote once you are 18 years from average life expectancy (as in life expectancy is 80, you can vote until you're 62, not after).
Imagine how much focus would be put on healthcare if that were the case...
I'm not sure about voting but probably about being elected
Also flying to Vietnam for a government paid vacation when they were 18 years old.
A lot of boomers missed Vietnam as even in 1975 some boomers were only 11 years old
Those from the actual baby boom right after WW2 weren't
Shhhh, the primary social media population wants to believe life was a breeze until they came along.
There was no oil crisis, no cold war, no economic crash in the 80s, no housing shortage in the 80s, no rampant crime!
The 70/80s where glorious!
/Sssss
We didn't start the fire
It's also forgetting the Korean war, and several smaller wars in between (Panama, Honduras).
Vietnam was bad, but don't forget so easily that we only just got out of the longest running war the US was ever been in, and it wasn't Boomers or Gen X fighting in it. It spanned two generations. Now, because there US just can't not be involved in a conflict, we're casting about trying to find a good enemy; I think the next one will be with a developed country. We've realized that we don't do so well with insurgencies, so maybe Russia or China. Or, maybe India and Pakistan will finish everything for us! They both have nukes, and China isn't just going to sit there while they trade nukes across the border.
Anyway, it's a little depressing that y'all have already written off the 800,000 veterans who fought in Afghanistan as being unworthy of notice.
The Korean War “ended” in 1953 the oldest boomer would have been 7 year olds, about half of them were the right age for Vietnam but even with that only about 2.7m served in some capacity for the Vietnam war with a lot in non combat roles there were 76m baby boom era so less than 4%
It was kind of a breeze in comparison to now, no? My dad bought his first house for $37,000 when the average salary was $15,000. I just bought a house and couldn't find one within an hour for under $420,000... The average salary around here is apparently $55,000
We're a 1950's 91% top-tier tax rate away from the same.
EXACTLY! I found something so defeated and defeatist about this thread UNTIL I read your comment.
This was once a reality!
Why do we not have it now?
Obviously an extremely nuanced question but clearly part of that is that even the obscenely wealthy were forced to realize that obscene wealth destroys more than it builds.
Yeah, my mother was able to earn a bachelor's degree (iirc? either that or an associates), paying for it by working as a cashier at McDonalds.
The fucking eighties, man.
My anger as I approach my thirties, unable to afford college even when I was working full time (before I lost my job), can not be overstated.