Canada

American here. If you're an Albertan, and you really think you'll get a better deal down here, then I have a bridge to sell you, and a ticket to CECOT.

Elbows up, my friends and neighbors to the north. The stupidity is being exported.

What a great distraction from her ongoing scandals.

Anyone in Alberta who thinks separating will help Alberta is an idiot. If you join the US, you'll be Puerto Rico Norte, exploited for resources and excluded from the Union. If you think Trump will honor any deal he makes I don't even know what to say to you.

If you go it alone you'll be a landlocked nation of 4 million, with absolutely no leverage against the two big economies surrounding you.

Hell, even if they do this referendum and it fails, you've lost your negotiating leverage with Canada because we'll all see how it's an empty threat.

Quebec is clear eyed enough to see now is not the time to talk about separation.

I'm of the opinion, that if the wrong actions are taken, we're in the opening stage of what is essentially another Crimean Crisis.

and the Crimean Crisis directley led to full scale war less than 10 years later

https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/the-week-that-was

This has a nice prediction on Canada 1/3 down the page, where they will use this crisis to push an energy corridor east.

Obviously a 25% tariff on steel and manufacturing in Canada is a death knell for the east, and only a 10% tariff on oil puts Alberta in a favorable position. Which pit provinces against one another, ensuring Carney would win, and would be favorable to push a pipeline for LNG. To ultimately defund Russia.

Carney is in a meeting right now and they are praising each other like crazy. Its quite absurd actually given how Trudeau was treated.

There seems to be a degree of confidence here that they wouldn't choose to leave. Don't be so sure. BC and Saskatchewan may vary a bit politically, but Alberta (with the exception of the two urban centres) has pretty much solidly been in the camp of "fuck the rest of the country, we got ours" for as far back as I can remember... and I'm 46.

I don't know why it's called a seperation when they'd clearly be joining America. I'm having a hard time fathoming how this isn't treason with the thinnest veil ever.

Albertans should use the lowered threshold to get referendums to get a referendum on exiling Danielle Smith.

hé, I'm in Québec, I'd need a nice ride in buses with thousands of others Canadians to tell Alberta we love them!

Gods I'm so sick of these clowns acting as people with jobs when what they really do is shout nonsense and waste taxpayer's money.

If signatures warrant? That’s hilarious. She’d do it if it got less than 1% of the population to sign.

Part of me wants to get it over with so we can answer the referendum with 95% telling her to go swivel, and hopefully put this nonsense to bed once and for all.

The other part of me dreads what shenanigans she'd get up to trying to distort that number.

“To be clear from the outset, our government will not be putting a vote on separation from Canada on the referendum ballot,” Smith said on Monday.

“However, if there is a successful citizen-led referendum petition that is able to gather the requisite number of signatures requesting such a question to be put on a referendum, our government will respect the democratic process and include that question on the 2026 provincial referendum ballot, as well.”

...and if they can't get the required number of signatures, they'll just keep lowering the requirements until they do. "With respect to the citizen-led democratic process", of course.

Because what everyone wants right now is to return to the polls….