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Hello world,

as many of you probably already know, Lemmy is an open source project and its development is funded by donations.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, donations amounts are often going down over time if people are not aware of their necessity. When older users leave the platform they may stop donating, while new users joining will typically not be aware of this and won't start donating to even things out or even go towards an overall increase in donations.

All of the services provided by our non-profit Fedihosting Foundation are dependent on the development of FOSS platforms, which we can host without paying any licensing or other fees, instead only being required to pay for the infrastructure cost. We are currently investing a small part (โ‚ฌ50 each) of the donations we receive in development of Lemmy and Mastodon, but the majority of the donations we receive are used for covering infrastructure costs. We're currently just about breaking even with the donations we receive, but it's certainly not enough to cover a large part of Lemmy or other software development costs.

We're looking to support sustainable software development for all the services we provide and will post similar announcements on our other platforms to promote donations towards the respective development teams in the coming days.

You can find the original announcement by @nutomic@lemmy.ml below:

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005

An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000โ‚ฌ per month. This leaves only 1000โ‚ฌ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

Liberapay | Ko-fi | Patreon | OpenCollective | Crypto

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000โ‚ฌ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500โ‚ฌ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

Donate


edit, as this was frequently brought up:

Will donations to Lemmy development go towards the operation of lemmy.ml?

It depends on the donation method used and is limited to around 2% of the minimum overall donation goal. The vast majority of donations is exclusively used for developer salaries.

lemmy.ml hosting is only financed by donations via Opencollective. All other donations go exclusively to developer salaries.

[source]

For donations via Open Collective, yes, a tiny fraction of donations towards Lemmy development will go towards the operation of lemmy.ml. The reasons for this include that lemmy.ml is used for testing new releases and also that it's not worth maintaining a separate donation account for the instance. Additionally, it should be noted that the money going towards lemmy.ml hosting is just a tiny fraction of the funds that are being asked for. Hosting lemmy.ml costs around โ‚ฌ100/month, which is only 2% of the stated minimum donation goal.

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[โ€“] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (19 children)

The purity testing and holier-than-thou attacks going on in these fundraising threads are truly counterproductive. We're not strong enough as an ecosystem and community yet to be able to afford this luxury. If this is coming from the left, I think you should consider the larger goal here.

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[โ€“] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just threw in a couple bucks! Loving Lemmy, it lacks the stench of capitalism that reddit fell victim to. Thank you to everyone who makes this place work!

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[โ€“] forensic_potato@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

More than happy to monetarily support this amazing open source project with monthly contributions! Thank you to all the devs involved in running this platform

[โ€“] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Ah shit. I'm currently a starving musician. I'll scrape you off some of the next gig.

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[โ€“] Epzillon@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Became a free member on patreon when i first joined lemmy. Completely forgot to actually up the tier. Recurring donations are now on, thanks for the reminder!

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[โ€“] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

For those with decision paralysis, Liberapay is a great choice. They're a France-based non-profit which is itself run off of donations which it crowdfunds on its own platforn (pretty based tbh), and the site itself is FOSS.

Of some note unfortunately is that donations for development also go to the maintainer-run instance .ml โ€“ whose tankie position is to expressly deny genocides like the Holodomor and the ongoing genocide of the Uyghurs by China โ€“ but the costs of development versus the costs of just running the server are completely disproportionate in favor of development. With that in mind, being ideologically purist here enables much greater evils, and I think Lemmy has easily given me more than this value: donated $20 (edit: upped to $30 for drama reasons).

$30 Liberapay receipt toward Lemmy showing $1.28 in processing fees

[โ€“] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 days ago (22 children)

How does one AVOID funding .ml?

[โ€“] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (34 children)

Addressed this in an edited-in second paragraph. Answer is "unfortunately, you can't" unless you wish to fork Lemmy. But as someone who's sickened to my core by tankie ideas, I still think funding this piece of FOSS is by far the lesser evil, I think I make a compelling argument for it, and I do think the Lemmy team do good work on the software side.

If I can hold my nose and vote for the lesser evil, I need to follow that same principle when it's not just my vote I'm casting but where I'm putting my time and money.

Edit: I completely forgot that you could, in theory, try helping out on their GitHub if you have a background in CS. It won't pay for the developers' cost of living, but it could reduce the maintenance burden if you know what you're doing.

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[โ€“] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (31 children)

No. Not until the people who want to genocide everyone who does not speak russian are gone from the project.

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[โ€“] Ledivin@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (23 children)

I would never donate so long as that donation supports lemmy.ml

Based on the general community sentiment I've seen and your reports of barely breaking even here, you can either break from the tankies or watch lemmy die without enough funds.

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[โ€“] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

Donated, I'd rather be on a foss platform that can defederate/block bad faith interlocutors than a corpo platform that forces their anti user pro monetization shit on everyone who uses their platform.

[โ€“] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I fkn love this community! Just set up yearly dono for 60

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[โ€“] nthavoc@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I'm not donating a single bit of whatever currency to .ml. Pick one or the other: dev costs or your own personal soap box cost.

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Meh, you can block the instance and still see the value in the project. I'd rather have both than neither.

[โ€“] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's how I use them but i am not giving a dime to those who want to kill me and constantly spew russian peopaganda. They can beg putin for funds.

[โ€“] nthavoc@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago

I did. I can't force the instance I am on to de-federate and I can't ban all users. I also don't agree with this campaign of those users to start the Reddit refugees and exiles there. You're making all of Lemmy appear like they support that specific view of politics.

It doesn't stop their users from coming over to our spaces and shitting all over the place

[โ€“] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Lemmy.ml monthly server costs: like 30$/mo

Cost to develop a Reddit: like 30M/yr

Price Lemmy devs are doing it for: 3000$/mo

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