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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 180 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the kind of thing people do when they fully believe that there is no path to justice. If we ever held cops accountable, this wouldn't have happened.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 19 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Everyone exploding at this, but this headline seems written to stir controversy, and people don't seem to be reading the article.

Two key facts:

  • It's reported that the 18 year old who was shot and killed was pointing a firearm with an extended magazine at officers when he was shot (though yes, he was running away, so yes, it could have been handled better, but there are thousands of more cut and dry cases to be mad about).

  • The deputy who was killed may have absolutely nothing to do with what happened

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Key "facts" about your "key facts":

The cop that shot him CLAIMS the kid pointed the gun at him, but the video evidence contradicts that. In fact, he was prompted to shoot the moment he exited his vehicle by other cops hollering "He's got a gun!" He relied on their statements, not his own experience of seeing the gun.

The fact that the kid had a gun is automatically in dispute. ALL cops have throwaway guns to be used in exactly this sort of a case. The video does not show him with a gun, but one was on him when he was found? Highly suspicious.

This kid stole a car, which was recovered. That is not a death penalty situation. Nobody should be murdered over an insured car.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago

I really don't think either of those facts mattered to dad. I think what matters is the reality that police are so rarely held accountable in even those cut and dry cases that there is no perception of justice at all.

[–] Trabic@lemm.ee 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Things police claim" =|= "Facts"

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In fact, more often than not, things cops claim are lies. Because they are trained to lie about everything.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 20 points 1 week ago

key facts:

"reported that" "may have"

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're saying key facts, but there's no proof at this time that he was aiming a gun at the cops. The article makes that very clear. That has not been established at all. There's nothing that proves he even had a weapon. That's a claim the police made. But has not been proven. You should never ever take police statements as fact. Particularly when they so obviously have motive not to be truthful.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 days ago (8 children)

There is body cam footage of the event.

The family has already reviewed it.

There’s been no statement that he wasn’t carrying a gun from the family.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The second point, I don't really mind. If you cause your department to be viewed with hatred, you're responsible for your "brothers" dying. If they want to avoid this they should try to rehabilitate their image. Until then, they should view everything they do as effecting all of their fellow officers.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I dunno. I'm American, and I sure don't want the world blaming me for what trump is doing. But I do share your frustration in general.

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[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Coppers should be taught de-escalation, but rarely are, especially in the USA based on what I see.

[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 7 points 1 week ago

You think you're being reasonable, but you've got rose tinted glasses on

[–] NobodyElse@sh.itjust.works 143 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

“Let me be very direct: We cannot allow individuals to flee from officers with a loaded firearm aimed at them,” she said. “When this happens, the outcome is almost always tragic. No one wins, and everyone involved is affected.”

Absolutely disgusting mindset for the police to operate in and it should be a condemnation of them, not an excuse for killing a fleeing person merely suspected of committing a property crime.

Armed gang murders member of the public (with the full intention of “investigating” themselves and finding they did nothing wrong), is shocked that public would kill one of their own, and expects the public to shed tears for their fellow gang member (who was really a great guy… every other gang member loved him).

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago (12 children)

so the kid, unarmed, was shot in the back because he didn't submit?

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apparently qualified immunity doesn't make you immune to bumpers.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Make cops ground beef again

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 91 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (22 children)

This was a very confusing headline. It sounded like they were charging a dead person.

Bottom line is:

  1. 18 year old gets shot by police
  2. The father of the 18 year old hit and killed a deputy with his car later on.
[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hopefully he got the one who killed his son?

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The guy should get off scott free due to Qualified Immunity. Just like the cops.

[–] Davin@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The cop was armed and was already known to shoot someone in the back, the father was afraid for his life and had to make a split second decision.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

That cop was no angel

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

scott free

scot free

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago
[–] GenerationII@lemm.ee 46 points 1 week ago

Hey, that cop just became a good cop.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 31 points 1 week ago

Cops who shoot people who aren’t shooting at them and who haven’t been involved in a violent crime deserve to die too.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Our fucking country, where the life of a car is worth more than the life of a human. ACAB.

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Destroy the Pigs.

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