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Thousands of users wanted it, so Firefox delivered it. Tab Groups are now live to help you declutter and stay organized while browsing.

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[–] jhonmu648@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 3 days ago (34 children)

Why people like 50 tabs at once. I can't understand.

[–] OpFARv30@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago

Neither can we.

[–] kazaika@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Heres a neat easter egg: If you open enough tabs on firefox mobile the number in the tab icon changes to an infinity icon

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[–] Sibyls@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I used to feel the same way. But recently, I just don't have time to 'finish' each tab/section. When I was younger with more time, I could.

For example, the first section of my browser is several self hosted apps I'm currently implementing. So, I don't want to lose the relevant forum posts/documentation.

The second section is some articles I couldn't finish reading.

The third section is something I'm researching for my work.

Fourth are media tabs, some YouTube videos I haven't finished, a music tab, etc etc

So basically, if I had time to read the articles, one section closed. Or finished my implementation, etc.

The hard part this is this is every week. Always new projects, work or personal. Always new studies to read. Always new vids. You get the point.

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[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Close tab button is a lava

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Agile and task reprioritization at work.

Too many projects to work on at home.

Games.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You gotta be nimble to navigate through 50+ tabs to find what you are looking for

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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

At work I’ll have like 20+ tabs open and I eventually am like F it, close everything and start over. Usually feels good.

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[–] Reisen@sh.itjust.works 78 points 4 days ago (3 children)
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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

whoa. mozilla doing something the people want?? WHAT PARALLEL WORLD IS THIS?

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago

Don't worry they say they'll shove AI in it so it's definitely our world

[–] jupiter2643@lemmy.ml 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As a librewolf babe, I'm keeping an eye on this: https://codeberg.org/librewolf/issues/issues/2458

Tab grouping is so useful and something I've always had to resort to extensions for. Good for Firefox for this, can't wait for it to make its way to a browser that doesn't sell users data.

[–] Ery@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Hey, you can use tab grouping in Librewolf if you set browser.tabs.groups.enabled to true in about:config

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[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

By now you would've expected someone to have pointed out what code is actually collecting that data that's supposedly sold.

[–] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it still seems like an overreaction(with good intentions) to a poorly communicated change, which, yes, might mean they'll do it in the future. But for now, they have the benefit of the doubt from me, and once it starts happening, I'll move to a fork.
That being said, I don't know anything about the code, so I have to count on the community to make it known that it's actually been implemented.
For now, as far as I understand, the only indication that they're even considering it, is that change in the ToS or whatever. Nothing else to suggest it's happening.

[–] ashughes@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

I’d agree that it’s overblown and I suspect this reaction comes from users not understanding the complex legal framework Mozilla operates in globally and regionally, and Mozilla doing what it does best, miscommunication.

IANAL but my interpretation of the situation is that in certain jurisdictions, California for example (where Mozilla is headquartered and where they have a legally binding contract in place with Google), they are and always have been “selling” your data from a LEGAL standpoint. It is a difference between how we users define selling (a literal exchange of data for money) versus how the law defines selling which can be much more broad and include things we wouldn’t define as selling.

As far as the law is concerned, again, in some but not all jurisdictions, a) all data has monetary value to tech companies, and b) with Mozilla & Google in particular there is a monetary exchange (ie. a contract worth millions of dollars) for Google Search being integrated into Firefox as the default.

Therefore, as far as the law is concerned, when you type into the Awesomebar or search box in Firefox, Firefox sends (sells) the data you entered (your data) to Google (because of course it does, that’s how the internet works) and this is a “sale of your data” under the legal definition. This is just one example from one jurisdiction Mozilla operates within, albeit a majorly influential and litigious jurisdiction.

My understanding is they had to make that their terms of use because if they didn’t they’d be liable to get sued into oblivion in jurisdictions where using a web browser to browse the internet constituted a legal sale.

Does this open the door to abuse and the literal sale of our data in the future, absolutely. But it’s on us to trust but verify, and do what we, the community, do best and hold Mozilla to account when they inevitably screw up.

Anyway, this was a much longer comment than I intended to write, but that’s my take as a someone who has not just used Mozilla products for decades but also contributed labour as well.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 29 points 4 days ago (5 children)

live to help you declutter

Me ready to clutter even more 😈

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[–] raptir@mander.xyz 36 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I'm glad they've added it to desktop, but based on my usage it's more important for me on mobile. Hopefully they bring it to Android soon.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I'll never understand you people that need like 50 tabs open at once.

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (13 children)

I have a few use cases:

  1. Many youtube videos that are like 30+ minutes long saved for later
  2. Documentation on some stuff that I need to go back and forth
  3. Movies or games that I found, but don't want to write down and forget
  4. Going down rabbit holes on wikipedia and saving it for another day
  5. Everything else that catches my attention and deserves a honorable spot in the tab bar

Basically, I use my browser as a notebook. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yeah those all seem like great uses of bookmarks and save functions.

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Bookmarks are only for the stuff I will always need again. Tabs just for the stuff I haven't finished yet and don't want to forget about.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Buddy have I got some news for you. You can actually delete bookmarks when you're done with them.

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sure, I can also just close the tabs I have open. Same thing, but I like it organized this way.

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Closing tab is also faster than deleting bookmark

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 16 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Can someone at least help me understand what tabs have that bookmarks don’t?

If i have more then 4 tabs open i get anxious because i can’t intuitively remember what each does. I have folders for categories of bookmarks.

[–] TheBeesKnees@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 4 days ago (9 children)

It's a combination of things... I'm a software developer, so I'll often end up with 20+ tabs open while resolving a problem.

  • I don't want to bookmark them because I don't need them when I finish the task.
  • I can't close the tabs until I'm sure everything's working because Google sucks these days and who knows how hard it'll be to find the source again.
  • Relying on browser history is like finding a needle in a haystack. Tasks can take multiple days and 100 different entries in history.
  • I might have "finished" a task that still needs tested and I know it's a bit shaky; I'll want to move onto a new task but keep the most useful references until I no longer need them.
  • I only bookmark pages that I'll need long-term or multiple times. It's already hard enough to keep those organized...

My tab hoarding has only gotten this bad because search engines are terrible now and the amount of AI garbage to sort through makes finding anything useful a pain in the ass the first time; let alone trying to find it a second time.

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 22 points 4 days ago (11 children)

if i bookmark something i will never look at it again

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