He voted Republican chiefly on the issue of abortion...
WTAF. Why are there so many idiots like this? You don't like abortion, don't fucking have one. And if you are male...it's not your concern.
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He voted Republican chiefly on the issue of abortion...
WTAF. Why are there so many idiots like this? You don't like abortion, don't fucking have one. And if you are male...it's not your concern.
This is the only area I DO get. I don't agree with it, but I can understand where they're coming from. If you believe a fetus is a person, it makes total sense to vote against murder. And we aren't going to win anyone over by framing it as just an issue for women. If it's even possible to change someone's mind on the topic it would be through education, not telling them that their opinion on murder doesn't matter.
It just makes zero sense to be a single-issue voter like this, though. And I don't really think most of them give two fucks about the fetus; for many of them it's about control.
For many of them it's about being accepted by the community. They dont question their beliefs because that'd put them in the out group.
Agreed. I grew up in an extremely rural area and if someone moved there from "the city" (any city, really) they were sus. Even being one county over was viewed with a raised eyebrow.
But even if someone was born and raised there, visited a large city with their family, and then later said something positive about that city, they were given serious side-eye. Though I moved there at a very young age, I was not born and raised there and didn't have extended family in the area. Therefore, myself and my family, because we tended to travel more, and were not "from there", were definitely viewed with suspicion by the locals. Another strike against me - I was definitely bound for college and my parents valued reading, learning and education. All very out-groupy things with a lot of the locals.
By the definition of "murder" it's only murder where it's illegal.
A person I used to consider a friend told me that Donald Trump was sent by God to end abortion. When I brought up several bible verses that directly condemn what Donald Trump has done he told me they were out of context.
No longer speak to him.
Ah, the old "out of context" crutch that so many Babble-bangers like to fall back on. Hilarious.
The same people that will ignore dietary law of the religion they co-opted will quote from the same book to support their opinion on Teh Ghey.
Lol Iowa. Good fucking luck.
LOL, WTAF.
i found some of the quotes interesting with regards to the pieces that people in different areas pick up on, what they care about and what they think is happening. Like the farmer guy who is being harmed by the tariffs but thinks Trump must be "asking for a lot to hopefully get half"
i don't think these people are stupid, just propagandized and situated in cultural echochambers just like libs are (all of us are). They (we) all have blind spots and denial. how do we reach them? if it's possible at all, the only way is through genuine authentic connection with people who may very well hold ideas we find abhorrent.
i had a really interesting experience this weekend. i stopped at a Diner in Queens on my way home from the airport and overheard a conversation about Trump and the tariffs between two older gentlemen. I think they were both white but one might not have been idk. It was clear they frequent this place and are neighborly acquaintances. The one guy came over and started out saying "you know l don't like to talk about politics" (honestly i doubt that lol)
it was not clear to me the whole time which "side" either of them were on. when the first guy got up to leave, i caught eyes with the one still sitting and he started to apologize for the subject matter and i said i appreciated their conversation bc i feel like the biggest problem in this country is we don't talk to each other and that's why everything is so out of whack.
they both appreciated that and we briefly talked about how "They" want us divided etc. I said i thought we all had a lot more in common than we would think, and they both agreed.
After the first guy left, i continued to chat with the seated man who was a 75yo Jewish man who grew up in that neighborhood and taught political science for his career. He identified as a centrist, taking things from Republicans and Democrats, and gets his news from a variety of sources mostly mainstream tv but also newspapers and magazines- he was reading the economist and said it was a conservative magazine but they don't agree with trump on the tarriffs.
we had a really amazing conversation because i was very polite and phrased my disagreements carefully, he was not agitated at all by anything i said, he was calm and confident in his knowledge.
he had some seriously wrong information.
whenever i tried to push back on something he said, i would generally say that i can never tell what to trust anymore but that the information I've seen said xyz. i acknowledged living in an echo chamber because i can't read or listen to republican news, and i was vulnerable about how upset i am all the time and we transitioned out of politics talk and into hobbies and maintaining mental health.
honestly, i can't stop thinking about the experience and want to go back there and talk with him more. it was a hugely positive experience for me and I would love to have more of those. Perhaps he was a rare bird able to talk without getting upset, that's why i was able to remain emotionally regulated (i did almost start to cry lmao just acknowledging how upset I am generally, I'm just a hair trigger these days)
I heard one of them was about to pen a strongly worded letter!
The stupidity of some people in that article is jaw dropping.
Also, if they shout at each other now, just wait for the SSA, Medicare, and Medicaid cuts that make hearing aids too expensive for rural boomers.
Grew up near Iowa, can confirm a lot of stupid people who think they're smart.
Studies show that two out of every three Trump voters are just as stupid as the third one.
"Everyone that disagrees with me is a Democrat"
Not only that, but Democrats by default do not matter and shouldn't be considered at all.
You'd think farmers at least would understand the relationship between what you sow and what you reap.
I’m sick of you democrats and your *checks notes* due process under the law.
Iowa was improving in the 90s, improving in the 2000s. They were blue then.
Now I hate going back, it's not the same state I grew up in. Abortion billboards and porn stores, same as the bible belt now.
The state is not improving but they don't care anymore, long as the right people (like me) get hurt.
Imagine believing that the best days of the US are ahead of you...
I'm sure improvements will be made, but the United States is dying, thanks in large part due to the cancer that's rightwing propaganda networks
Finishing lunch with two friends at a diner in Osage, Dixie Bowman, 88, a retired welder, said she liked what Trump was doing. Her two friends, when asked, said they preferred not to speak of it.
Dixie Bowman: Trump is “a very kind, very generous person”
Sounds exactly like what one would expect from someone with a name like "Dixie"