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[–] odium@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Why an SUV, what does every company have against electric sedans?

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want sales. Sedans just don't sell as well anymore and I think Ford cancelled all theirs. I'm not sure on that but I think it's right.

[–] Uncaged_Jay@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ford did just cancel all their sedans, and while Ford said the same thing, "sedans aren't selling as well" is kind of a silly excuse considering they're still the second best selling body style in the US and the best selling vehicle in the US for the past 20 years has been the Toyota Camry Sedan. I think car companies want to increase profit margins, and they know they can charge more for a crossover than a sedan while the cost to build will be similar for either body style.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Profit margin is a very fair point. A little tail wagging the dog kind of thing. Getting us to buy crap we don't need.

And to be real, it's a smart strategy for their goals. It's clearly working.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

You sure about that?

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g43553191/bestselling-cars-2023/

The Camry is probably the best selling in its category, but trucks sell a whole lot more.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why an SUV, what does every company have against electric sedans?

I say this as a sedan EV driver, but they make more SUVs because customers buy more SUVs.

Tesla Model Y Seeing Twice As Many Sales As Tesla Model 3 — How Will This Change?

[–] odium@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was in the market for a new electric car earlier this year, but ended up going with a gas because of how few choices there were in the lower end. There were plenty of luxury electric cars, but when it came to the $20ks range, the only options were companies notorious for bad build quality and frequent recalls like Hyundai.

None of the reputable companies like Honda, Toyota, Mazda, etc., had any electric sedans at all in 2023.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Japanese auto companies have been lagging far behind on EVs. The one exception is Nissan with the Leaf at $28k+.

Even extending to SUVs or crossovers from Japanese auto companies it only adds a couple and some are horrible compliance cars like the Mazda MX-30 which was horribly high priced, and pathetic range.

[–] madnificent@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It helps that the model Y has a trunk that's actually accessible versus 3. I would much prefer a practical sedan or wagon but there is not much choice besides the Model S (which lacked a tow hook until recently) and the EQE/EQS (for which the styling requires some getting used to).

[–] Poe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

SUVs sell better basically. I'd assume the extra ground clearance might allow for more batteries too

[–] Pinecone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

SUVs are the easiest to sell. Sedans cater to a narrower and different market.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Because screw you and your thoughts. We have generic looks that we can copy/paste and it's gotten even easier since we don't even need to design new engines anymore. - auto manufacturers

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

SUVs are what people want, simple as that.

[–] londos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if this is a trend or just one data point, but I'm in my mid/late 30s and for the first time ever am shopping for a new car and would love for it to be an EV. My target demographic group needs space for a stroller, diaper bags and room for a trip to Costco.

[–] odium@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Station wagons have the most boot space IMO.

[–] londos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Love a good wagon. Honestly this looks a bit like the Ioniq5. If true, even though they brand them as SUVs, the Ioniq is lower and closer to a wagon in person.

Edit: or at least a large hatchback.

[–] Poe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly looks pretty sharp

[–] Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looks great. Still not paying 50k for a car tho, people are out of their goddamn minds.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well ... maybe with some subsidies and rising gas prices it makes sense? You can drop a few hundred on gas a month whereas with charging and solar panels it's quite a bit less.

But yeah, I've never paid more than 18k for a car and bought my last two cash. I'm not getting a second mortgage just to drive an EV.

I'm lucky enough to still work from home so only drive a little per week, so for me there's zero point getting an EV any time soon. Switch gas and oil subsidies over tho and I guess we're talking.

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol someone people got "fuck you" money and some 9-5s just take out a car loan to #YOLO

I mean I'm taking out a car loan soon with my 9-5, but my max budget is 20k. If I made double what I make now I could afford a 50k car, but idt I'd go for it. I could remodel my house for that.

[–] Krakatoacoo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm disliking the trend of having manufacturer or car names' badges spaced out wide across the rear of the car. I'm ok with stamped words though.

H O N D A

T O Y O T A

B R O N C O

E S C A P E

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

P A L I S A D E

[–] Poe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's not my cup of tea either, seems to be where design standards are going

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Wait so it's just a Chevy equinox ev with a Honda skin?

[–] dolessrem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Looks great but I just want an accord that doesn't look like absolute shit.

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

All I know is that any EV costs about 1/2 to 1/3 more than I am prepared to spend on a new car. I am in Australia and it just feels like we are being conditioned that cars cost 70-80k