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Oh, great! Now Donald will be like, “we’ll need to look in to BU. We believe they are harboring terrorist.”
Lesson learned, I guess. If she had only set fire to the Capitol in support of an insurrection in support of the far right, she'd be up for a pardon.
Don’t get captured
Its better to not burn the cars since they can be claimed on insurance. Let them sit and rot. Burn the dealership though, then they can't sell or service anything until the building is functional again. That's a much harder economic punch to Musk and bigger statement in general about Musk and his policies.
Insurance premiums will be adjusted. Plus people will avoid buying Teslas if there are too many attacks on them.
That being said, I think there are smarter ways to fight for democracy.
The keyword here is "Alleged". As far as anyone knows, She was just falsely-flagged.
Impossible. She was at my house at the time of said incident.
I can vouch for this
I set fire to that dealership.
Another witness filmed a video of the fire and posted it on X, the affidavit said. The witness claimed they saw McIntire fleeing the scene.
And the rats? What do they get? Honestly, disgusting that someone would help the police find her. Like what even are your morals. Fucking pathetic.
America does have a greater than zero percentage of spineless bootlickers, more interested in upvotes and likes than their own freedom, unfortunately.
Snitches get stitches.
"Leave the multi billion dollar company alone unsheaths plastic katana"
him* possibly them*
-The article says the suspects full name is "Owen McIntire" being the only hint to suspect gender.
I kinda both like and dislike that something as arbitrary as long hair and no beard can cause this kind of debate. In the '80s, the assumption probably would've just been that they're a fan of hair metal lol.
I like it because it means that it's a lot easier to bend gender norms (and be seen as bending gender norms) than I thought and it also just proves how full of shit people are when they claim they "can tell" and that at least half of their perception of the world is dictated by their culture.
I dislike it for the same reasons though. Because it means that this world is still a lot more puritanical and prone to pearl clutching than I thought. It means that boys with long hair who don't like sports are going to be getting beaten up and bullied for being 'gay' or whatever. It means that sightly butch women won't be able to use public bathrooms without judgmental, psychotic people wanting to make that woman's genitals their own business. It means that I'm living in a world with people who still think in terms of long hair = girl, who haven't ever expanded their minds or considered that their own cultural norms don't apply to everyone in the slightest.
Wow. You about summed up my experience but in the late 90's, early 00's. Good work!
They really are this dumb.
They think this will discourage targeted destruction of an oligarch? Decades for worthless cars?
If you get decades for that- make sure to get the rest of the lot. Bonus points for for a factory.
I mean, arson itself is usually punished very harshly because it can easily get out of control and kill people (and most of those laws predate modern fire safety standards). It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla's that don't have harsh punishments associated with them. Or if you do, try not to get caught.
It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla's that don't have harsh punishments associated with them.
One popular method of destroying cybertrucks is simply treating them like a normal car. Perhaps Owen should have vandalized their neighbor's car by giving it a good rinse? That tends to brick these dumpsters
How easily have the arson against Tesla killed people?
I think it's not easy because no one has died
If you're going to go part way, may as well go full way. Shooting season is about to start.
Tough talk from a keyboard warrior. I expect the next act of civil disobedience to be tagged "this one is for Lemmy fam" or you're full of it.
Nothing but false bravado from russian subversive operators as far as I see.
Multiple people have tried to shoot trump. Can you acknowledge this reality?
So, you're saying only incompetent people espouse violence on social media? I'd agree with that except the person I'm criticizing is not american so I cannot in good conscience presume incompetence.
My country isn't turned to shit like America. I just choose not to go, but sooner or later the rest of the world may have to do something if their own citizens won't.
Why would you ask someone to do this? I like this place. I’d rather not see that happen.
Human beings are being pushed too far right now in America. I would have a healthier fear of it than you seem to.
Conversely to shut them up. It's all impotent frustration that isn't going to pan out to shit. Real gradeschoolers in the playground vibes.
I wouldn't call your fear healthy until it is about something happening. Right now you're empowering their BS tbh so some self-reflection might be in order on your part.
It’s bigger grade schooler on the playground vibes that you feel the need to chime in insulting strangers.
Careful now or I'll raise my virtual fist in the air and you'll be quaking in your boots for the rest of the day.
Yes, arson is a crime, and rightly so. “Decades behind bars”, however, for setting two cars on fire (and damaging two charging stations) is insanely disproportionate. There’s a very important reason that not all infractions are sentenced to the maximum possible extent:
If the government is going to drop any pretense of mercy or sanity, then there’s no reason why people shouldn’t take their time, plan things carefully, and destroy the whole dealership. People who would otherwise do less damage are taking note. Sure, some will be scared away, but I think more will be emboldened. Maybe I’m wrong, but it doesn’t matter. Either way, the end result will be worse.
The government is basically telling people that prosecutors won’t be reasonable, so you might as well make sure the crime is truly worthy of the punishment. I cannot overemphasize what a terrible idea this is.
Her punishment should be at least as bad as the sentences rioters served for breaking into the U.S. capitol. Or maybe that should be the cap since her actions didn’t result in death and weren’t intended as an attempt at insurrection (unless someone that owns Tesla is now considered the head of government).
It's like the zero-tolerance policy my at my kid's school...
I told them if you get hit, since you're going to get suspended anyway, fight back until I get there to pick you up.
“zero tolerance” in public schools is 100% copout cowardice from administrators who would rather hide behind policy instead of having to earn their six-figure incomes by making the basic fundamental decisions that the job duties entail. All principals everywhere are midwit cowards.
It's a pro bullying policy designed to hurt bullying victims, who are the same people who are oppressed as adults and that's not by accident
While I agree with the assessment of zero tolerance policies, there isn't a soul in our entire school district that is making 6 figures. Most of the faculty in our district are barely scraping by because the voters believe this collective delusion that schools have more money than god and are full of wasteful spending. That is a lie promulgated by conservatives to defund schools.
Stop feeding that lie.
I am a public school advocate from MI where every single administrator in the state makes six figures as well as many gym teachers who don’t yet grasp the English language’s most basic homophones.
This is reality. I think public school admin has collectively failed our country as much if not more so than any profession.
Absolutely, it’s called a proportional response for a reason. I always think of the West Wing scene when this subject comes up. The whole scene lives in my head rent free to be honest.
Hi!
We're the Trump regime.
Every idea we have is the worst one imagined!
Have a horrible day!
Cop: kills innocent man; gets 2 years of prison
Student: burns 2 ugly as fuck cars in protest, hurting no actual people; gets several decades of prison
Wait, your cops are going to prison?
Only of they burn down a police station first
I'm not a lawyer but the feds claiming it as a federal case because cars could be used in interstate commerce seems lame. Should be a Missouri case, not a federal case.
Bullshit expansion of the commerce clause has been ongoing for at least 100 years.
c.f. Swift & Co, 1905 (?) and Wickard 1942
Damn if that's what happens for hurting a car might as well go after the man
I used to drive on State Line past that lot full of Teslas daily, always saw a ton of Cybertrucks just sitting. Once Musk started getting so much (more) hate I figured it was a matter of time before someone torched it.
Also, I always find it funny how it's totally just a road that divides the states, I'd drive to work and be "in" Missouri and drive home "in" Kansas lol
It's honestly better if that inventory sits on the lot unpurchased. It costs them money to store it and it looks bad for them having old inventory around months or even years out of date. Torching it just gives them a nice insurance payout.
We honor the sacrifices of our soldiers o7