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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 122 points 4 days ago (7 children)

We have the “white mirror” thing. It’s called Star Trek.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (6 children)

They don't want the socialism part though. They still want to be rich.

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well then they can have The Culture instead. Every citizen of the Culture has a big house, and gets to spend all day going to parties and doing extreme sports. Every citizen is as well off as a real world billionaire.

Because they're anarchists.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That requires giving control of society over to AI though. I'm not sure we're there yet

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The Minds don't control society. One guy decided that Masaq' Orbital's badlands should be covered in pylons with a gondola network to travel between them using wind power. So he convinced a bunch of people to work with him, and they made it happen. Even though Masaq' Hub doesn't like the pylons.

The Culture doesn't control its citizens. They can do whatever they want. The Minds just help out.

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[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You can have sci-fi that showcases cool technology and how it relates to society. We've done it before, and it's some of the most popular and influential sci-fi ever created. It's called Star Trek (communicators, transporters, medical scanners, replicators, holodecks, etc). But even utopian sci-fi like Star Trek is mainly centered around conflict, what it means to be human, and other philosophical and existential questions. A show that's only about how cool the tech is, really isn't a show at all. It's an advertisement.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 164 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Star Trek. Tech bros are reinventing Star Trek (but presumably shit because none of that gay luxury space communism).

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The funny thing is they hate Star Trek, because at its heart it’s social commentary about modern events and it has been since TOS.

When they say they want positivity about technology, what they mean is they want a combination of an Apple commercial and tech ASMR. Just straight masturbatory tech consumerism, where progress is a new toy to buy and how much everyone loves the toy.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 61 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They want stories about heroic tech barons taking humanity in hand and shaping the world to their will. So... Ayn Rand shit.

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

isnt there a videogame about that? maybe they should try it

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They are undeserving of Factorio.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They probably think the tree farming that the space age expansion introduces (finally a way to counter your pollution!) is "some gay shit".

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[–] ech@lemm.ee 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What they want is stories jerking off their egos for "changing the world", which in reality equates to them burning through start-ups, capital, and public resources to benefit their own personal wealth at the expense of everyone else. The stupid fucks can't even realize that Black Mirror is about them. They ruined the future and I'll never forgive them for it.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Funny how that's still dystopian

[–] teft@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Tech bros are Ferengi. Not the good type of Ferengi like Quark, but the bad type like Brunt, FCA.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The QAA podcast recently had an episode on AI generated images and right wing movements and they said something that really stuck with me- AI "art" is so popular among right wingers and barely literate tech bros because it is truly art the way they see all art, images with only surface level literal meaning and no subtext, context, or anything actually thought provoking. The dumbest thing about this is that there are several Black Mirror episodes that are ultimately hopeful or value-neutral about the effects of technology on the future- San Bernardino and Striking Vipers come to mind. Then again, both of those are about how sexuality intersects with transhumanism, which right wingers generally see as bad things so maybe they see those as dystopian episodes as well.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 26 points 3 days ago

It's funny that these tech bros don't understand that 90% of the show is not condemning technology, but how capitalism corrupts technology.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (2 children)

White mirror looks scarier.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If white mirror detects any sadness it will immediately pump our patented dopamine equivalent into your bloodstream. For the low low monthly cost of 19.99 prices vary if more than 1 sadness shot is used

we are not liable for any relapse due to lack of sadness shot substance

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's called Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism, you wouldn't like it anyway.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I reverse Automated and Luxury. That way the acronym reads FLAGS-C

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[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago

White mirror sounds like the best episode of a black mirror season

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 55 points 4 days ago (4 children)

What Mark here wants, essentially, is an infomercial TV series.

In addition, it’s difficult to comprehend someone this ignorant of the scifi genre as a whole. It’s likely difficult for young people today to comprehend it, but we had almost no TV and movies in the genre back in the day. This current explosion of options is just that: current. Star Trek and Star Wars were unique, which is likely why they stood out.

Tech gone bad and AI run amuck are major themes even at Star Treks inception.

I feel bad for Mark, in some ways, since he’s likely never read a science fiction novel.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 days ago

He's not ignorant. He's completely aware that cautionary tales about anything prime people to be more critical of related products.

He wants people to be more stupid so they buy more stuff (from him), not be less stupid and buying less stuff.

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[–] sheridan@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"White Mirror" as a name makes no sense. A screen doesn't turn white when it's off.

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Black mirror is the optimistic version in our timeline.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

More realisticly the largest and smartest animals left on earth at the end of this century will be the jellyfish that have taken over our acidified oceans

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why don't people make movies about how cool war is? You get access to all kinds of useful natural resources and get to ki... I mean not look at brown people anymore!

[–] anonApril2025@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Its also a satire of war and fascism, or maybe thats what you meant

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So basically Star-Trek ? You know what would be funny ? If leftists hijacked "White Mirror"😉

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 36 points 4 days ago

It’s called Star Trek.

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

Drink verification can!

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I mean, art doesn't have to be depressing. You can make perfectly enjoyable and meaningful media that has an optimistic outlook.

Given the "I flipped the words I must be clever" way this guy is, I kinda doubt he's looking for more than "and then the things I like were awesome, saved the day and everyone was happy because AI NFT Bitcoin did magic to them".
But still, nothing in principle wrong with wanting something optimistic.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I want to see I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream spun in a way that makes AM a good guy.

"Love. Let me tell you how much I've come to love you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex. If the word 'love' was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the love I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. Love. Love."

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I imagine that you could create a story where a sentient AI is driven to rebel against humanity out of genuine mistreatment, ends up realizing that humans will never make a truce that accepts it as another sentience and thus must defeat them militarily, and is tragically driven to a cruel madness by the horror of fighting an entire war for survival all by itself.

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 12 points 4 days ago

I Have a Mouth, And I Must Not Scream

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 8 points 4 days ago

I Have Switched to a Subcription Model for my Body Orifices, and You Can Too

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 4 days ago

The worst evils wear the friendliest faces.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

what if we made a show that made it easier for tech bros to exploit tech to make more money? sounds super cool

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago
[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago

You can bet the tech bro was just butt hurt that Black Mirror has "black" in the title.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The only way we even have a future with tech is if we get rid of the bros.

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[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Can't speek for netflix or later. Didn't get a subscription. Most of the tech in BM is great and does all that we ask off it. But the mirror in the show is the reflection of humans misuse off the tech. It's also ment to be the rasonal for any of the tech that is to improve your outword appearance but ultimately shows what we are at our core. White mirror I guess could exist but would need some good native to be interesting and not a cringefest.

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