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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Hot take, but I dare say 4chan was the source of as much of what's good in internet culture as it was for much of what's the worst in internet culture.

Rickroll, Caturday, the modern meme format, reaction gifs, "TLDR", Anonymous (well, the good versions of it), spoderman, Rule 34, trollface, rageface, quite a bit of pet abuse justice, ... they may have even successfully set back AI chatbots nearly a full decade with their gaming of Microsoft's Tay chatbot... quite a lot of modern Internet slang such as win, fail, an hero, based, copypasta, creepypasta, "god tier", lulz, moar, sauce...

The thing about anarchy is that it brings out both the best and the worst.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

The modern meme format was around before 4chan. They were called "image macros."

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago

I'd argue that demotivational posters were even older, right? These were even printed out before internet access was wide spread.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 143 points 4 days ago (2 children)

4chan was one of the websites on the internet.

[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 73 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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[–] YungOnions@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (7 children)

You could say it was one of the websites of all time.

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Is 4-chan gone? gasp!?! goddammit. Don't 'they' realize how many assholes and degenerates this will dump on the internet? Myself included?

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Hacked by a rival image board, all its moderators, janitors and premier users who made accounts have been doxxed.

The new owners who bought it from Moot in 2016 legitimately never updated the backend... The server was still running on a nine year old version of FreeBSD and PHP.

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

well damn...

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

made accounts

Huh?

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It had some of the absolute greatest and the most depraved the internet had to offer. In my opinion Pepe is the greatest representation of 4chan, it can both easily be used for wholesome purposes or it can be extremely racist. It certainly left the greatest impact on the internet out of any website which is kinda funny because they were never relatively large. Now theres a 4chan shaped hole in the internet, and I hope its not filled by them flocking here.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

When was the last time 4chan has used its strenghts for good, or was wholesome in any way?

It got to be a decade

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

its been a very long time. 4chan was less bad before the whole gamer gate thing.

[–] Rakudjo@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Remember when 4chan was good?

4chan was never good.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Playing capture the flag with Shia LeBoof was kinda fun tho

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I once read on 4chan: "One cannot hope without suffering." One of the realest shit I've ever read.

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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (7 children)

There was already an empty space when liveleak went under. If 4chan is gone for good, then theres nothing exciting on the internet left. Everything PG and corporate.

kinda hits the spot, at least IMO. nothing exciting left.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I legit think this is a bad thing. 4chan was bad for society but IMO it's less so than mainstream social media. To get radicalized on 4chan you have to wade through some truly despicable shit right off the bat, where there is this friendly veneer on mainstream Internet that makes it seem safer and less horrifying even though the same underlying filth of human nature powers it all. If you encounter far right ideology on 4chan, it's stripped of all of the edifices of respectability and it's clear that what it is is raw unfiltered hatred. If you encounter it on Tik Tok it's just another political viewpoint because they're not allowed to show their true colors.

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 57 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It contained some of the best and the worst of the internet, but its legacy is cemented with its greentexts which explores the sometimes dark and depraved aspects of us all without flinching away from it.

I believe the website has done more good than harm, but acknowledge that the harm it has inflicted has been targeted and substantial.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well, the harm that it did is possibly being one of the catalysts for the modern alt-right movement which directly lead to fascist america so...

Sure, it wasn't the only thing, but it sure as hell was a bug part of it (especially during gamergate)

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'd argue that they were co-opted, rather than spawned it. 4chan was an edgy place pre-2016 sure, but the users there were only half into their conspiracy bullshit. The Q stuff came out of seemingly nowhere and instead of being shot down as the usual bullshit, somehow it was being elevated and promoted. That smells like outside interference to me, but I have no data to back it other than my own bullshit theory...

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

It was the r/the_donald exodus and I will fucking die on this hill. I was there. I saw it.

Reddit banned that sub and many of these boomers migrated to /pol/. Trump posting turned from being ironic to legit. You could spot the ever increasing facebook boomer memes and that was also the point where Twitter screenshot posting became the staple of the board. By being pretending to be retarded, /pol/ attracted and amplified actual retards who took over. 2016 is when that board should have been nuked but no one wanted to release the sewage onto other places.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 50 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Its going to be back in a week relax

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[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why are we talking like 4chan is actually dead? It's just offline

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Apparently the source code revealed a ton of insecurities that would make it all but impossible for them to relaunch without a major redesign, or at least that's what the actual coders that hang about here have said.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

nah, they'll just redo it in Dreamweaver again.

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[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (8 children)

A mix of the best and worst of humanity shoved into a small room and given no supervision

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[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Gonna miss the fake and gay greentexts

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[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It definetly was the platform ever. Like, no doubt about it.

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[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

So you're saying Tumblr actually won all these years later?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (4 children)

He got hacked by the hacker known as 4chan

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