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As much as I dislike the Chinese Autocratig Regime, if they're right, then they're right.

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 163 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I am so embarrassed for my nation.

So many hateful people united in hate towards half of their own country.

Sometimes being a straight white dude is a weird thing, all these horrible people look around make sure there’s none of “them” around and then they say something so vile to me as if I’d agree with them.

I don’t let them off the hook. Ever. I just talk louder “what did you say? I’m hard of hearing please speak up? What did you say was the problem with all black people?! (Mexican people / gay or trans people / Jews / Asians etc)”

Fuck bigots

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago (10 children)

You live in the south.

The rest of the country isn't anywhere near so pure and absolute evil. I say this as a brown person.

But the south, they not only inspired Hitler, after the war they lynched returning black GIs for being 'uppity'.

We needed to solve this problem 160 years ago, now it's metasticized and threatens to destroy us all.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we keep on the current track, the sea will be marching up from the south and east...

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Quit trying to blame this shit on one part of the country. First of all, that's exactly the kind of division the fascists want.

Second and more importantly, it isn't even true. The rural parts of the rest of the country are just as racist as the rural parts of the south, and the urban parts of the south are just as cosmopolitan as the urban parts of the rest of the country. The only real difference between the south and everywhere else is that a slightly lower percentage of the population is rural.

I also live in the south, but I don't have other straight white guys saying bigoted shit to me as if I'm on their side. Why? Because I live in an urban enough area that I don't have to associate with fuckwads like that.

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[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don’t know if it’s a gender thing, a location thing, or just my vibe (I’m a woman from Connecticut and I’m an autistic vegan with a septum ring who presents pretty butch), but this has happened exactly once to me. It was, unfortunately, my best friend making a mildly antisemitic joke to me and another acquaintance of mine she’d never met, at his expense. Fortunately, however, I took her aside and was able to get through to her. She was adamant that she wasn’t antisemitic, but “the joke was right there.” I explained that it’s like the “make me a sandwich” or “tits or gtfo” jokes, where in one instance, they might not be so bad, but they wear on you and make you so wary of hearing them that you start to think about your wording, and they other you over time. She understood, so well that she felt awful about it and apologized, and has occasionally mentioned the interaction several times since as a pivotal moment for her.

You’re a real one I wish I could have your patience and understanding. I

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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 61 points 1 week ago (3 children)

When the worst guy in the room has a point :(

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

With how things are going around the world, I'm decently sure everyone's competing to be the worst

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

It's important to remember China's mindset is very much in the century of humiliation.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I kinda hate social media. It gives me anxiety and people make all sorts of assumptions from like a single comment.

The good parts are just seeing a random comment like this and then reading up on this. Like, I know very little about Chinese history despite being Chinese (ethnically) but growing up in the west myself.

It led me to watching this video: https://youtu.be/xD1nDGeiSAs

"Hardened by its past, for China there is no valid reason to trust outside forces and international commitments"

Thanks.

(of course I get a downvote ...)

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

It's worse than that.

Their cultural revolution and GLP caused EXTREME social paranoia.

Many are not stable, the damage caused a psychosis that causes them to distrust everyone and leads to self-destructive behavior.

The Taiwanese are an excellent contrast here, they are what the mainland should be, educated, happy, functional.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah but our current position is perpetual humiliation

I’ll trade current event humiliation/nazism for the historical variant.

Germany and china are less fucked up than USA in 2025

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

China is still actively committing genocide against the Uyghurs so I’d would definitely not say the last one

[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They are deporting citizens from other counties to a black site known to torture and detain criminals all over the world. Like that lady from Canada a month ago who spent 2 weeks in a cell.

The US has been put on human rights watchlists.

Their police actively kill first ask questions second. They kill so many innocent black people that the world formed Black Lives Matter in support.

Keep staying delusional I guess till Trump starts building those gas chambers.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Guys guys, settle down. Two countries can be horrible dictatorships which don't care about it's citizens human rights. It doesn't need to be a contest. Both of you have a popsicle and go play on the swings.

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[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Buddy I didn’t deny anything about how our own government is actively an authoritarian regime or any of the shitty things it is doing. But we still are not at People’s Republic of China (PRC) levels yet. We do not actively censor the media on the same level as PRC where even the slightest hint of disapproval is enough to be disappeared, yes though the waters are being tested here. For now we still have elections on the state level that can mean something since more than one party can run. We are still allowed to protest here without just being shot on sight. We have an uncensored internet for the time being so I do think it is fair to say we are not as bad as the PRC.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The sacred rituals of Western civilization-- the election and the press-- were long ago subsumed by capital. You don't need to formally censor when the oligarchs own the media and will skew the messaging to serve their interest. You don't need to have a single party state when the Overton window has been dragged so far right that no electoral outcome can actually oust billionaire rule.

At least, in that context, we can ask who censorship serves? Is it about social cohesion and stability, or preserving the privilege of a handful of people?

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yeah but we’re actively genociding our own people and other countries peoples.

We’re technically even shittier

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (8 children)

China is also supporting genocide abroad, they are helping prop up Putin’s war in Ukraine. Which Russia is kidnapping children to “reeducate them and give them proper parents” while slaughtering civilians. China is also a one party state and brutally suppresses any attempt at a protest. Their interest and their media are highly censored and any mention of criticizing the state can get you disappeared or sent to a “reeducation camp”.

I’m not dismissing the shitty things we have done and are doing. Nor am I denying we are actively flying towards the competitive authoritarianism that China has. But as of right now we are not as bad as China is.

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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don’t think any one supports persecution of the Uighur people, nor the Tibetan people, nor laying claim to Taiwan. It should be taken in the context of those that America persecutes. Currently that’s Palestinians, to an extent Venezuelans, and likely soon to be Ukrainians.

America did terrible things but seemed to want to be better. Now it is just doing terrible things and many revel in the evil.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

And the constant warmongering in the middle east.

The U.S. was never good.

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[–] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Battle of a fascist country and a proto fascist country. The roaring 1935 is here.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Unclear which is the former and which the latter...

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[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Uyghurs are in forced labor camps. That seems like worse bullying.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Afaik people in usa are now too. Imperialists are the worst, no matter the color of the rag they are proud of.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We really have no high ground here. Our prison industrial complex is much larger and we have way more incarcerated people per capita than china. The USA is 5% of the world’s population and we have 25% of the worldwide prison population. One in three black men will spend time in the United states prison system. We need to worry about the genocide being committed through mass incarceration and the police state here before we start judging china. Forced labor is alive and well in our country. You should watch the documentary 13th

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean sure very True and very valid pieces of wisdom. But it is also very hypocritical, lets go and ask Deepseek about the Tiananmen square.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, this question is very sensitive and the dynamics require significant consideration. I can't talk about that topic currently.

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[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

China bullies and threatens all of it's neighbors. They murder more than a few Vietnamese fishermen every year. Greetings from Hanoi.

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sweet plagiarisized quote, foreign minisier.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the problem here, that they didn't give proper attribution. Spot on.

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