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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 75 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Call that one a win.

Take risk of signing up for a 3000 year hyper-sleep trip.

Reap the rewards of being a pioneer without having to do any of the hard work.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

join intergalactic ship pilgrimage hoping to be a pioneer to a new world

Land to late stage capitalism and the same oppression you were just trying to escape.

Id shoot myself immediately.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A mission in starfield (shit game but honestly decent writing at the very least) included just this. A generation ship finally arrived at its destination long after FTL travel was invented to find that the intended colony planet was already a fancy resort planet. You have to broker some kind of agreement between the parties.

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[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As if that future civilization would treat you as anything but a zoo specimen

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 61 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Not only that, but 3000 years into the future, language has changed so much that the plural of SHEEP is now SHOOP

That's right, androids do dream of electric SHOOP

Shit's wild yo

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

1000 years alone is a wildly long time for language. Granted, written language and education are more accessible than ever, so I imagine language evolution will be significantly slower than it once was, but still I found this short of English over the past 1000 years to be really interesting

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WLSBCs5vcgQ

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Have you seen how fast slang is evolving currently? I can't even imagine translating something like "chat, am I cooked?" to my grandma.

Also on a side note; have you noticed the rise in lisps?

[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I can't even imagine translating something like "chat, am I cooked?" to my grandma.

"Hey folks, am I in trouble?"

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[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Shoop da whoop?

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Got any older memes pug?

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Well at least you didn’t have to spend the rest of your life building civilisation from scratch.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah but it's all strip malls and Arby's.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Could be even worse than that. You could arrive to find a planet dominated by talking apes with humans living as primitive animals, only to later find that your ship whipped back around and you were on Earth all along.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

How is that not great for me? Setting up a colony must be hard work and all around pretty horrible.

[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

I think that's exactly what one would be hoping for. One does this to escape the reality of human civilization and seek the adventure of building it over again.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's another solution to the Fermi paradox. FTL travel is impossible, but can't actually be proven to be impossible, so no one wants to be the sucker.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Don’t have to fll. Just have to be a third faster to give them 1000 years head start

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (16 children)

3 Body Problem has an interesting take on this. Faster than light travel is not possible but communication is, meaning we’re anxiously preparing for an alien war that won’t happen for 400 years but they can see everything we do in real time thanks to quantum entanglement.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

FTL coms are a concession to the story, it would have been terrible without it

IRL quantum entanglement can't ever provide causality breaking info. In very simple terms, you need correlation to know when the data stream began as just observing the resulting spins still seem just as random before and after the event.

In even more simple terms: Whatever message they can send even if pre-agreed on seems like random heat results until you know the exact moment the transmission began, as confirmed by a light lagged message.

In less simple terms, the misunderstanding comes from treating the metaphor of 'flipping the spin north switch' as a literal thing instead of a less-than ideal 'lies to children' of what is actually happening to particles that experience spin transition, and the meaning of 'entangled' is both less and more strange than people understand.

But again, 3 body problem would have been a terrible story without it,t hat's why it's science fiction

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[–] match@pawb.social 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

it'd still be cool as fuck, i wouldn't even be mad

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 5 days ago

“Hard” Sci-Fi stories making a big deal about faster than light not being possible but then treating pods that magically freeze and revive a human body for years as such a triviality that we invented them by 2004 or something in the timeline.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago

There's an HFY story where the guy in the slow ship became a tourist attraction for the advanced humans that beat him to his destination.

His bank account had grown to billions and they offered him billions more to keep it going.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Cryosleep in earth would be pretty baller. Imagine all the people who'd sign up to just skip ahead 50 years.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Sounds awesome not only you skipped the hardest part you have everything setup and get to live a good life. Unless of course that was your goal to experience building the colony.

[–] Saltycracker@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

You make it to earth and you forgot the historical reason why you avoid earth. It is a prison planet

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

At least you aren’t a soldier ready to restart a war that’s been settled

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Babylon 5 had an episode on this. A sleeper ship was launched and a few years later we got jump gate tech from an alien race.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago

Instant celebrity

[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Riffing on the meme

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The real solution to this is simple. You're a ship full of colonists dreaming of settling a new world, right? So go settle a new world! Ask the citizens of your target world for an FTL-capable spaceship, climb aboard, pick a new target further afield, and head off into the wild blue yonder. It seems that's the least they could do in such a situation.

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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

one of the, like 3, interesting quests in Starfield was based on that!

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

This is the plot of a short story, Far Centaurus, that I read a long time ago.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I love how Peter F. Hamilton's Commonwealth Saga (2004) opens up with this. But also funny how the inventors of the tech were such douchebags that they casually used it to just be there when the first mission to Mars landed. But hey, at least they didn't have to do the return trip.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

That's the plot of a nice obscure theatre piece I know, but they don't travel that far, are awake, and see the other ships pass. It's awsome and fun for the audience and super frustrating for the characters.

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[–] gamer@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That was the only memorable part of Starfield for me.

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