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Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 12 points 55 minutes ago (4 children)
  • The illusion that we are "rational" has done more damage than good, and if we were to just embrace that emotions are not just real, but a stronger influence on people's behaviour (and therefore reality) than any facts, we might start getting somewhere as a species.
[–] Rednax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

But understanding, predicting, and reacting differently on emotions are all learnable, and very rational.

For example: don't punch the TV when you are angry about loosing a game. Instead realise where the anger is coming from. Probably frustration, but why are you so frustrated when you loose? Some frustration is understandable, but what causes so much frustration that it turned into violent anger? And can you predict what actions or circumsfamces may result in that frustration or and anger (e.g. alcohol consumption)?

The most rational fictional species I know, Vulcans, do not lack emotion. Quite the opposite. But they have learned to control their emotions.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 19 minutes ago

I feel like most people do get this, but aren't very good at defining how exactly rationality breaks down and where.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

On the same note we should acknowledge that we have a intellectual limit and that we should all aim to understand where the limit lies.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

this is true on the neurons' level in your brain. I also only agree that it's rational because my emotions allow me to accept such rationality

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 15 minutes ago (1 children)

I wish there was a third option to knock down things that aren't actually controversial. In threads like this an upvote and a downvote are both an upvote.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

Upvote to agree Downvote to disagree Sort by controversial

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 44 minutes ago

The state must be abolished. In fact, all forms of hierarchy must be abolished.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 2 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

If I had no say in the creation of a system I should not have to participate in said system for the benefit of others.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

that sounds selfish and evil unless I got you wrong. can you give an example? like jeff bezos paying $0 in tax because he does not benefit from social security or medical care?

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 2 points 31 minutes ago

I mean modern society as a whole. The serfdom, the racism, the capitalism, the voting, the suffering etc. I didn't want any of this and I'm expected to participate and if I don't there's something wrong with me and not the systems. Your gut reaction proves it pretty well thinking that's selfish and evil.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Broadly speaking, I'm a Pacifist and believe any kind of military confrontation or military aid is bad public policy. The idea of collateral damage - civilian casualties taken in pursuit of military objectives - is fully immoral and should be broadly rejected. Military resources should be tasked first and foremost as disaster relief and recovery with the primary mission being the preservation of human life, rather than offensive missions to defeat or deter an opposition military.

Military reprisals (starting with the MAD policy and going down to retributive strikes in border disputes) are monstrous and should be ended. Military prisons should be closed and POWs immediately repatriated. Embargos, particularly those aimed at economically vulnerable nations like Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea, serve no useful purpose and should be lifted immediately. And the only offensive military action should be reserved for securing evacuation routes for refugees, with the bulk of resources dedicated to extending shelter and both immediate and long term relief to the refugees we accrue through these policies.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So, I'm genuinely curious - what do you think the US should have done during WW2?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

I can tell you what we shouldn't have done. We shouldn't have turned away the 937 passengers of the St. Louis. It shouldn't have done the mass arrest and internment of Japanese American civilians. We shouldn't have sent Germany military aid in the form of IBM computers and Standard Oil. Hell, there was a laundry list of American government-backed big industry supporting German and Italian Fascists even after the bombing of Pearl Harbor

What the US should have been doing was enforcing the accords struck after WW1, implementing a Marshall Plan in Europe and North Africa and East Asia 30 years earlier, and providing immediate unconditional refuge to anyone threatened by a fascist government, rather than hot-housing them in fascist states until they either fled to the Middle East, Latin America, or Soviet Russia or got shoved into the ovens and gas chambers.

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[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 19 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Circumcision is multilation

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 40 minutes ago

I mean, it definitionally is. Even if you use a less charged synonym like "body modification of a major part".

The normative/moral take would be that all genital mutilation is bad.

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