Ask Lemmy

"I don't like being held responsible for the outcomes of the fiscal policies I fully support"

I think "You're a fucking liar".

They pine for the Blue Dogs and haven't updated their policy preferences since the early 90's.

Housing and human rights matter and we should stop spending so much money on bombing houses and killing people.

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I think we have countless words. We should use our words.

We all have a spectrum of social and economic and other ideals.

Those who want to lead us have theirs too, and they’re the ones who need us to commit and compartmentalize into ideologies and macro definitions that get twisted.

To an extent, you can make an argument for each individually. But they don't mix. After a while, you'd be a walking contradiction. For a fun *exercise, try to imagine the opposite.

My friend who managed to be as right as it could even be in a political compass test which I thought was impossible, the man was a hyper capitalist

My first thought is to wonder what they mean, as opposed to deciding it must be the worst thing I can think of.

I think the person saying it wants to avoid family or acquaintances giving them shit for not sharing their political views.

Most of my family is very conservative stereotype vile people. I've heard that exact phrase from the few left leaning relatives as they try to wigle out of unconfortable conversations. I myself am the black sheep that just tells the repugnicans that their views disgust me.

"I'm an upper middle class asshole but Republicans are terrible company and won't smoke weed with me"

"I like pot and hookers and pretend I'm better at managing money than you."

Depends on if they mean capital C conservative or not

Assuming that the person saying that is an American, I think that they don't understand economics and probably aren't as socially "liberal" as they might like to think they are ... or they haven't thought that hard about either topic. I think that based on the numerous people I've heard say that to me in the past.

It's fine to not really have thought about these things that much. Not understanding economics isn't a moral failing either. The people preaching about the economy usually have an agenda that isn't well-served by accurately describing economics and it can be hard to know where to find good information. I would rather hear "You know, I think those are important topics but I'm not sure where I stand on them yet" though.

C-c-c-conservative combo-breaker!

Edit: Sorry, I just wanted to say that. But I do think that falls under right wing with a sprinkle of social moderate leftism but even so, the debate of "can gays have the same rights as all of us" takes away from the ultimate leftist pov of "we should all have better material conditions as a class, including minorities".

Edit 2: and fiscally conservative is ofc "you keep whatever pennies you may or may not have, I got money Idgaf I'm not giving it away" which is the misunderstood antithesis of the concept of the far left.

It depends what country they are in

these words are all broad strokes. without specific examples, i'll just put it as lip service and move on

nod and say "okay" or "cool brah"

-- my head

A walking example of privilege

"I haven't thought about politics for more than 30 seconds in my entire life but I don't want to admit that and don't want to sound like a complete asshole" is about the most charitable way I can translate that sound bite.

In the U.S. "fiscal conservatism doesn't exist" so I hope you are voting against the hate mongers and trying to reform their opposition into balancing the budget (difficult when the hate mongers keep fucking the tax code in favor of the ultra-rich).