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[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just wipe out ALL mosquitoes, and then measure what the actual influence is on the food-web for other animals and plants.

[–] CapitalNumbers@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

no joke but i remember reading something about this aagggeesssss ago where a group of researchers modelled the effects of no more mozzies on the food chain and found that, because barely anything fucking eats them, their eradication would be negligible

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Glad to hear it.

Proceeding with Phase 1.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

I heard there's a guy called Luigi with a cool idea.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I really want someone to just really start messing around with the human genome, see the limits of gene expression. Let's add horns, let's add tusks, let's add tails, and wings, and carapaces, and antennae, and claws, let's just see what happens. Human evolution has gotten so tired and trite; let's add some spice.

[–] fermuch@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't let the furrys hear you

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Here's a very unethical linguistics experiment that I think would be interesting:

Raising a group of children completely isolated from any language, spoken or otherwise. They would not be fully isolated from people, but those people would not be able to communicate with each other in the vicinity of the children (no speaking, no gestures, etc.) Of course, to isolate them from language would mean strictly controlling their lives (very unethical). Could they communicate with each other, and maybe even develop a language?

[–] klugerama@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child

Not a controlled environment but it's happened several times, with varied results.

[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

they tried babies without anybody and they all ended up dying at some point. turns out human connection is pretty essential

[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Try to find out at which temperature Musk begins to melt.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

That sounds incredibly humane actually. Information like that will save lives.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lobotomize all conservatives to see if their IQ increases.

We've exhausted all other options.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

In The Host (2007) they lobotomise the protagonist but he's so dumb it doesn't affect him

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Seems pretty tame compared to various other answers, but keeping people under anesthesia longer than expected during surgery and seeing how it affects things like memory or personality.

Supposedly after an open heart surgery I had gone through over a decade ago, my mother swears my personality changed. Though I can't remember if that's true because my memory has felt, in a sense, kinda foggy since then. So I wanna know if it was because I was under for longer than expected or because the surgery itself.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I would wager that it's more to do with the surgery itself. Even transient hypoxia from blood not getting to your brain for a little bit can make a big difference. Anesthesia is used very frequently with rare complications, but complex heart surgeries have higher complication rates.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sounds fair enough that it could have just been the surgery. I'm nowhere near a medical professional, but I can totally see unforseen complications having happened to me.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 2 points 5 days ago

Brains are very finicky things and they get very upset if there's any disruption in their supply of glucose and oxygen, but anesthetics are carefully selected to not disrupt that as much as possible. Anesthesia might paralyze the muscles you use to breathe, but that's what the intubation and ventilator is for. The anesthetics we use don't affect the heart muscle because it uses different ions and chemicals than every other type of muscle in the body to generate contractions. However, open heart surgery will absolutely mess with the heart which will disrupt circulation.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago

Raise a group of a dozen newborns with absolutely zero contact outside of their own group. Food and necessities get provided of course, but no language learning, no nurturing, no generational teaching.

What kind of community do they form when they are old enough to grasp such things? Do they develop their own language; or a different method of communication entirely. How do they stratify their society, or even do they?

At a certain point, when they are old enough, introduce challenges that only work if they cooperate with one another. See what happens.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Take the people expressing their violent political fantasies in threads like this and make them live in the worlds they're advocating for.

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

The mouse utopia experiment but on humans. Ive always seen a subset of people who bemoan having to work or develop specialized skills to contribute to society. They want everything provided for them so their whole life can be leasure and comfort. A lot of socialism and communism selling points tend to be about having social services and things provided to you.

I'm interested to see the long term affects of people in a society where EVERYTHING is provided for you all the time. Every survival concern, sexual pleasure, every base urge, every whim and desire. For decades and decades and decades. Would it be a genuine good for society or would it be a monkeys paw situation?

Ive always hypothesized that any human society that attempts this will quickly erode into something similar to the mouse utopia.

Without any environmental pressures or meaningful challenges to overcome a large portion of the population without strong internal drives will become lethally/suicidally lazy, apathetic, and narcicistic

I suspect theres a large amount of people who simply have zero internal drives to apply themselves to doing a thing unlesd they have to. without the pressure of survival in either a physical or economic way they would simply sit on their ass, jerk off, play games, and maybe groom themselves, for decades until they die. Merit and overcoming challenge are important aspects of drive and dopamine generation. You deprive a person of those things they become lethargic. If that sentiment proves itself true it will be a hard pill to swallow for a lot of ideologies.

Unethical questions:

Statistically speaking, how many people would escelate their wants to socially taboo depravities? How quickly?

How long on average would it take for pleasure to become less meaningful in the face of instant gratification? Is there a logarithmic function that charts this?

How many people on average decide to begin self harm out to seek novel sensations? How long until onset?

How many people choose to live out a full life vs taking the placebo cyanide capsule and being removed from experiment? What would their reasonings be?

[–] nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago

the issue that caused societal collapse in the ~~mouse utopia~~ Behavioral Sink was overpopulation, not that they had their needs met comfortably lol

for a more accurate comparison look at Rat Park Experiment.

TL;DR: rats in solitary confined standard lab testing cages will consume lots of morphine laced water available as an alternative to normal water, rats in a spacious cage with other rats of both sexes and entertainment are not very interested in the morphine laced water. in fact they drank more of the laced water when naloxone, a drug that negates the effects of opioids, was added to it. the implication being that the rats were more interested in sweet water than morphine in good social conditions

[–] stelelor@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

I think we see aspects of this in the behaviour of the rich and ultra-rich (where "screw the rules I have money" applies). It's pedophilia all the way down.

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lock someone is a room-wide 24h fMRI or some other imaging technique to get a full recording of a human body working.

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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

The metal gear solid thing where you clone someone into two separate people but one gets all the recessive genes and the other gets all the dominant ones

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Who from the US government will last the longest in a bonfire. Although it might be questionable if this experiment is really unethical.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 days ago

I'll allow it, we can also see if two wrongs make a right.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I want to see what happens we just have mob lynchings of politicians if their approval drops to below 50%.

Maybe the world would become a utopia?

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[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Tbh I don't think anything would really get done. Politicians would just recycle the same super popular ideas to prevent themselves from getting lynched.

It'd be like how video games companies are just churning out safe titles they know will sell really well, but with our government instead of video games.

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[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Nice try, Mengele

[–] Tomassci@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Separate a child from society. Like place them into a void with no human culture. And see what they think later on.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Recreate the setup of Training Day and see how many people become dirty cops because they get finessed by Denzel Washington

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