Next up, all of the CPC politicians who supplied coffee and donuts and took selfies with swastika flag waving Nazis during the Ottawa siege/occupation without even apologizing for it.
this post was submitted on 26 Sep 2023
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Just an aside, but has anyone had the misfortune to have a quick look at the comments over on r/canada or cbc.ca around these articles? The amount of dumb (i.e. simplistic, low information), seething hatred for basically everything, is overwhelming. I can't tell if this is all bots, or if something weird is coming out of the woodwork, but it seems like we've passed some tipping point and I'm starting to feel alarmed at where we are headed. I get this is super embarrassing, but no serious person could think there was malicious intent in this Parliament incident. Fuck-ups and carelessness happen, the guy resigned, time to move on and focus on real issues.
I agree, there's been an apology and a resignation, so it's done. This kind of mistake could happen to anyone, and the people spending their days in comment sections must have led really charmed lives to never have a friend or relationship that turned out bad.
He did the right thing, unlike that time that Pierre Polievre shook hands and took selfies with the well known white supremacist who later threatened to rape his wife.
Conservatives lie and cheat then change the rules to remove barriers to cheating. They have no shame.
I don't peek at r/canada or r/vancouver anymore, just r/NiceVancouver and r/onguardforthee sometimes.
Here at Lemmy where the atmosphere is much lighter I already see a fair amount of unhinged comments and bigotry... specially coming from other instances.
Exactly, I think the bigger news should be the misinformation coming out from this debacle and finding out who is behind all of this.
When you hand the Russians a propaganda victory, you can expect them to dial up the troll farms to 11 to get the most out of the opportunity. It's a big fuckup and CSIS/CSEC should have interdicted this TBH.
I'm sure we'll see new house policies to prevent this exact thing from happening again, but the stupidity of politicians is a force without bounds. I'm curious how you expect CSIS to have prevented this. Do you mean they should get involved with all of the actions of our political bodies, or to somehow stem the deluge of AI-generated divisive content?
r/Canada was like a mini r/the_Donald sub for a long time. It was really bad. That's why r/onguardforthee was created. It could go back to its roots anytime.
Yes.
Last time I checked /r/Canada had openly extreme right mods who foster that kind of environment.
Nobody seems the least bit upset with all the nazis, fascists, white supremacists, and misogynists that make up poilievre's precious "base".
Society is entering a time of hyperreality, and hypernormalization. We can almost see it happening in real-time.
What kind of circles are you frequenting? All my homies are worried about PPs posse.
I am glad to hear that, but the circles I am frequenting are the daily news and this site and mastodon. Every poll has pp and his base of assholes being our next government.
Cope
I think that it's possible for essentially random people to be honoured shows just how bad things are being run.
Does nobody do even the slightest bit of checking out who is being honoured? The whole thing makes me think that people are just running on empty, doing whatever pops into their heads without the slightest bit of actual thought.
Glorified Roombas, the lot of them, and that might be an insult to Roomba.
It's an insult to everyone who actually earned their honour.
Not an enviable position. You know you have to put on a show for Zelenskyy, else the Canada public will lose their shit that the guest wasn't properly entertained, but nobody there gives a rat's ass about any of it – only done to keep with tradition on the social pressure to keep the tradition alive. Of course nobody is going to spend time researching something they couldn't care less about. Which lead to the Canadian public losing their shit anyway.
When did Canada become such a grumpy place?
Trudeau should've made a statement that he was no longer welcome in the Liberal party before he resigned.
He can't fire the speaker, but he can kick him out of the Liberals. The Liberals have such a reputation for screw-ups that they need to be seen cleaning house.
He can’t fire the speaker, but he can kick him out of the Liberals.
Kicking a former Speaker out of the party because of actions taken as Speaker would be a terrible precedent.
Why? The party has no obligation to let anybody run for them. The party is free to kick people out based on actions that occurred outside of their role as an MP or party-member in other cases, why not this one? The Speaker, who is an MP who was elected under the Liberal banner (even though he's no longer part of the Liberal party) screwed up on a massive, geopolitical scale. Why shouldn't the Liberal party be able to say "you are no longer entitled to that banner"?
If anything, this should be a lesson for every prospective speaker: this is a No Fun Job. You do not take initiatives, you play it safe as hell, because out of everyone in Parliament you are the one who is working with the worst guard-rails. You don't have access to party infrastructure to vet your mistakes for you. Which, honestly, is appropriate for the Speaker, which is canonically a role about being an elected politician who must be above politics.
Because the Speaker of the House is a non-partisan position.
Well then banning him from a party he's not really related to is fine.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Liberal MP Anthony Rota is stepping down as House of Commons Speaker after inviting a Ukrainian veteran who fought in a Nazi division to Parliament — a dramatic turn of events that will be welcomed by MPs on all sides who said the embarrassing incident was unforgivable.
While House of Commons Speaker Anthony Rota has so far resisted calls to resign his post over a tribute to a constituent who fought with a Nazi unit, he lost the support of some key Liberal cabinet ministers on Tuesday — a development that makes his position increasingly tenuous.
On Friday, Rota invited 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka to sit in the parliamentary gallery for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's address to Parliament.
Government House Leader Karina Gould said Rota's lack of judgment in issuing the invitation requires that he step down from the position, which he's held since 2019.
Health Minister Mark Holland, who recently served as government House leader and worked closely with the Speaker in that role, said Rota is "a profoundly good man" and the last few days have been "incredibly difficult" for him and those who know him well.
While the NDP and Bloc Québécois said Monday that Rota needed to go, Poilievre and Conservative MPs spent the day blaming Trudeau for Hunka's presence in Parliament.
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