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Summary

Lawmakers from both parties expressed outrage after The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief revealed he was accidentally included in a Trump administration Signal chat discussing Yemen airstrikes.

Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-Pa.) and Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.) called for investigations and firings, labeling it a serious security breach.

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration's mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And just like that, everyone has stopped talking about hillary clintons emails.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

I agree that "heads should roll"...literally.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Heads should roll? Maybe, if you ask nicely, the French may share some equipment and experience.

[–] martin4598@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

We actually preserved a few ones. We would be happy to provide. We can even take the 25% tarrif on our account.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Really? For fucking real? This is where they draw the line?!

[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What line? Who? Everyone's been angry the whole time. Still no line has been drawn. Buttery males...

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The article claims that legislators on both sides were upset and I was making a joke about how the conservatives were okay with everything else up to this point.

To be clear, if 13 GOP senators and as few as 3 house reps voted to remove Trump it would be done.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Its like Nixon, Watergate was one of the less egregious things he did, but it was a faux pas against the political order. The Republicans are fully on-board with the wholesale dismantling and privatization of the bureaucratic state, but they're not ok with making the intelligence mechanisms weaker.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's bad, but not even close to the worst this admin has done. However, with proper screeching of NATIONAL SECURITY and shameful reminders about BUT HER EMAILS, this might be the first thing that Dems could sell to the Republican base as grounds to remove people. And let's be honest, that's who the Dems are really angling to persuade.

Probably not tho, lol. Nothing will actually change. 🙃

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

You don't even really remind them about her emails you can just remind them about the laws they wrote making her emails illegal after the fact in a failed attempt to "lock her up." We can scream "ILLEGAL MILITARY CHATROOMS" and "ILLEGAL ESPIONAGE".

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Uh oh, they're expressing outrage now. I'm sure someone will suffer.

[–] Especially_the_lies@startrek.website 300 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] Kraiden@kbin.earth 71 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't really care about her emails with that statement, it was her pronoun which was the problem they were crying about.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'd say 50/50 because she's a woman and a Democrat.

Good thing she never wore a tan suit or used the wrong mustard, then Republicans would have done something drastic like storm the Capitol building!

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 152 points 1 week ago (13 children)

No heads will roll. What most stories miss is that the main reason they didn't use official channels for this (and most likely many of their other conversations as well) is that they don't want to comply with the Federal Records Act. They don't want there to be a record of a lot of the shit they're saying and doing and plan to do.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago

Trump and his regime’s cabinet are truly evil and rotten to their core.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 108 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Devil's Advocate Hot Take:

This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that "We get to break rules, and you cannot." We see it as incompetence and abject hypocrisy, but it could be a purposeful leak because they don't care about being seen as hypocrites, they are about showing us they can get away with it. It could also be a Trial Balloon about the kind of wars they intend to wage.

/takes off tinfoil hat

I really think they really are just this stupid, but I think its at least worthwhile to consider the alternative, because a lot of what conservatives do is about using hypocrisy as a weapon and expression of power over others. They want us getting angry about such things, so they can can be cool and collected and say that we're overreacting because they're so calm while chuckling and sneering at us.

"But her emails!" Yeah they don't actually give a shit, they may just want to show they can get away with it. Much like Trump rejecting using a government issued cell phone in his first term and Bush "losing" millions of emails.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that “We get to break rules, and you cannot.”

Hanlon's razor applies I think:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence or stupidity"

I really think they really are just this stupid

Yep. They fired all the adults that think things through and provide rigor for a reason so the only people left are children doing whatever they want ignorant of the consequences.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Congress: Somebody should really do something to rein this administration in!

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Remember in 2016 when the entire magat crowd screamed that Hillary should be locked up for using a private, secure server that was only accessible to authorized individuals?

Surely they won't be hypocrites and try to brush this under the rug, or worse try to blame the editor-in-chief who had no desire to get wrapped up in this.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago

I'm shocked that the administration of "Put the big boxes of top secret docs under the bathroom chandelier" would mishandle secret war plans.

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine that. You have unqualified amateurs in important government positions, and they don't know what they're doing.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The really sad thing is that in this scenario only Republicans matter. As long as they keep treating Trump as some kind of god-emperor, nothing will happen.

I was going to say "treating him as a king", but England and Canada have kings and would never put up with this kind of shit from a king. England hasn't put up with kings acting this way since the Magna Carta was signed.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (7 children)

God-Emperor is literally what they called him on r/thedonald

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

Make it happen Senate. It's literally your job. So fucking do it

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From alcoholics, to heroin addicts, to ketamine fueled Nazis, the Trump administration is running like a well oiled crack addict machine.

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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The so-called experts on Trump over at the Atlantic wrote a long and boring article on my cellphone usage that is so incorrect I do not have time here to correct it. I only use Government Phones, and have only one seldom used government cell phone. Story is soooo wrong!

--@RealDonaldTrump

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Way too coherent to be real.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago

It's OK! He LEARNED his Lesson! Again!

-Susan Collins!

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only person in real danger here is the journalist.

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[–] greenhorn@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

Hegseth is now saying it didn't actually happen, matching their incompetence with dishonesty, the tone of this "merit based" administration

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