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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Jesus. How is torture and rape as widespread and prominent as it is in this war? This is not normal.

What does this say about Russian people that such a high percentage of their armed forces are so perverted, sadistic and vile?

[–] glimpseintotheshit@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't make it any better but rape was always a part of pretty much any war in human history

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartime_sexual_violence

I think it's just that we hear a lot more about individual cases in the social media age, but correct me if i'm wrong...

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 22 points 1 year ago

It might just be the last 150 years that humans have tried to sanitize war but the behavior of Russia is notably awful even by medieval standards.

[–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

It’s something that happens when you give people weapons and let them loose in another country knowing there is little oversight or consequences. Just allows the bad guys to finally do what they want. The “regular people” contain an underestimated amount of assholes.

[–] yemmly@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russia has always used state sponsored terror tactics and humanities violations. Just go read up on the way they treated people in their way to Berlin in WW2. It's horrifying. Raping children to death in front of their families is just standard operating procedure for the Russian army and that never stopped being true.

Now, they've used another time honored Russian strategy. They emptied the prisons/gulags to flesh out their front line. Which just feeds into the depravity of the troops who are well known for this kind of behavior already.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's normal for war situations. The kind of people who become soldiers are almost always open for raping other people when given the chance. If you read about other wars, rape is always very common.

They are programmed into believing that the other country is evil, so that justifies their actions in their own minds.

Soldiers are lost souls.

[–] fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not an excuse but the Russian population has been brutalised for a few hundred years and they are culturally warped in a manner known clinically as “Fucked in the head”.

[–] ClumZy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A traumatized dog is a dangerous dog and has to be put down. I'm glad to see that the Ukraine army is doing as such.

Once the war is over, every Russian man that took part in it must be neutralised, it's the only way. Rapists, and those that allow such atrocities, do not deserve to live and must die for the good of others.

[–] fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

How about rehabilitation of the entire nation?!?

[–] SpiritedTaco@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

The world will neither forget nor forgive what stupid Russia is doing.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

How the fuck is their age relevant?

Does the person who wrote this think old women generally don't get raped?
Or that the rape of an old woman is somehow worse than that of a young one?

"Russian troops raped women while their families were forced to listen" gets the same story across, sensationalising victims' details for clicks is gross.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's to portray Russian soldier as people who doesn't even respect 80 year olds. Similar to when someone kills an 80 year old to steal a bag when all they have to do is take it. The killing is completely unnecessary and shows cruelty. And same thing here, the article is designed to show how cruel Russian soldiers are who doesnt even leave 80 year olds alone.

That's my interpretation.

Otherwise yes, of course young women are raped much more then 80 year old wimen. That's why it's considered extra cruel, and that's why they are pointing it out.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

It reinforces that the rapes are done for the terror factor of victims beyond those that are raped and not because the soldiers are horny or whatever other stupid excuse.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I think almost any crime against the elderly or children is generally viewed as worse, with good reason. They're generally more helpless and less able to fight back/run away.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I also find that odd. It makes it almost seem as if raping elderly women is something that requires extra mention. So that nobody assumes that we are talking about the "normal", "understandable" rape of younger women. It's seriously fucked up.