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In response to a court order, the Federal Aviation Administration has reinstated 132 employees it had fired in February...

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

ATC are career conditional for a LONG time. In many cases the people they fired were certified controllers, fully checked out and working airplanes by themselves.

When you're close to a system you see just how bad some things are, and how poorly and incorrectly "reporting" gets it. I imagine there are a LOT of government agencies being shut down by attrition that actually SAVE society money, compared to the cost of not having them.

Clown world. 🤡

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 128 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

These people are getting paid since February 15th when they were fired. Meanwhile, many of these positions were being backfilled by air traffic controllers working overtime, most of the time not doing as well of a job as the person who was "fired" in the first place.

So to recap: Elon and Trump fired well qualified and necessary employees, continued to pay them after they left, then over paid someone else to do their job, but worse, making us all less safe and simultaneously overworking an already notoriously overworked group of ATCs who have one of the most stressful jobs in the world.

I dunno about you guys, but I'm not sure this Department of Government Efficiency is actually very efficient...

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 66 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

The whole process "DOGE" is doing is like what he did to Twitter: just start unplugging stuff until things break and then plug the last thing back in. Except this time, instead of brief interruptions to the racism app, it's real people's lives being affected both directly (the employees being fired) and indirectly (the citizens who rely on these services).

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's fine for a shitty website, but exponentially worse when it comes to keeping airplanes in the sky.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It’s almost like efficiency is a low priority for government services. Resiliency (often due to redundancy) is far more important.

The only reason to worship efficiency is if you plan to siphon out value.

I’m all for fighting corruption though.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And THAT is why you don’t “run the government like a business”

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I’d argue efficiency in business also only benefits those trying to siphon off value that could be better directed to workers and customers.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 15 hours ago

Yup ,and Trump is running the country just like he runs companies, straight into the ground. At least they're consistent, I guess.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 18 hours ago

It's actually doing a fantastic job if you classify efficiency as "destroying the American government"

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 7 points 18 hours ago

And are the workers who were covering far more than they should have been going to get some extra down time now that others are back? Doubt it.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 40 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Could you imagine going back to work for a place that tried to fire you a few weeks ago? And is still actively appealing a court decision to try to fire you again?

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, most people would go back to get the back pay + a continual check while they search for a job that's not this.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Go back to work for one day, burn remaining sick or vacation time, and then resign with no notice.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

This is the only way.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

weren't they already desperately trying to get them back once they once again realized they effed up massively. again.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago

They panicked when they realized they sent the "fork in the road" email to controllers and quickly back pedaled. But as far as I know, they haven't freaked out and tried to rehire these people. This took a court order from a judge - and it sounds like the administration is trying to appeal it.