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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh? Pulling a “Republican”? My wife made me do it? Wasn’t my fault? Attempting to distance herself so she can make a run for office again.

[–] Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, seriously. She's an adult. She could have just said "Thanks Joe, now go away." What could he have done? Fired her?

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

If anyone wants some good rage material, watch the Pod Save America interview with Harris staffers

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago

She was elected, not appointed. She could say and do what she wanted and theres not much Biden could have done about it.

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 29 points 9 hours ago

She is her own person and has to live with the consequences of her choices like everybody else. It's all in the past now and just a footnote in history.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I am wondering if the mods of news@lemmy.world and politics@lemmy.world regret censoring the people who rightfully said these things and it would cost us the election. Like there's mods in here who go "yeah that sucks, I knew it." but also just defended Biden/Harris and removed good faith users who posted citations that even their beloved Media Bias Bot said was a good source.

They did it, banned the people who said it, and then people went "where are all those critics now? i guess putin turned them off! hurr hurr haw haw!"

Genuinely wonder if they question their choices of just doing this for free with literally zero benefit to their website and the country as a whole.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Genuinely wonder if they question their choices of just doing this for free with literally zero benefit to their website and the country as a whole.

No, they dig their head in the sand and continue to play stupid. If they ever actually acknowledged reality they'd feel bad, so that's not gonna happen

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly this behavior is going to keep getting highlighted from Biden because he was an absolute stubborn idiot. He had polling showing him losing to Trump with over 400 electoral votes for MONTHS before dropping out. He blamed his family for staying in as long as he did, obviously it was him or what was left of him.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

History will not look kindly on Biden for fucking over his one job of stopping Trump. Didn't arrest him, didn't defeat him, didn't stop most of the Jan 6 protestors, didn't go after the enablers of his actions, didn't really stop anything Trump did to avoid debt and jail and we ended up with him for Round 2, Even Worse This Time.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago

100% agreement. He should have arrested Agent Krasnov and his henchmen on the first day of his presidency, and detained them in isolation without bail or access to the media, until their trials were resolved. If he had done that, Krasnov and his Gang would be in prison right now, instead of the White House.

Instead Biden appointed a weakass Republican as his AG who gave him a 2 year head start to run out the clock.

The Dems had the perfect chance to defend our country from the MAGA scourge, but they totally abdicated their responsibility. It will be 100 times harder to take it back now, and I don't see it happening without violence.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Look at democrats now. Still doing absolutely nothing. Even if they won they still wouldn’t have stopped Trump or Musk. They’d probably just stand aside if there was another Jan 6.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

He blamed his family for staying in as long as he did

Real ted cruz moment, that.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

WDYM "let"? What was he gonna do? Sniff her?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

He probably said something vague about decorum.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

If you run into Biden can you let him know I decorumed his mom last night?

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 43 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Sounds like an excuse. She could've had a different stance but didn't. Because she's the same thing. She was asked point blank how she's any different than Biden and she couldn't answer.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Harris couldn't answer basic policy questions when she was running for president in 2020 either.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago

Nonsense. In 2020, she was one of the few that was supporting universal health care, for one thing. Unfortunately, she somehow decided, or was pressured, to stick with Biden's platform in 2024 instead of her own, more progressive, platform.

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[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

His legacy is in the toilet so congratulations advisors.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like blaming her loss on others takes away her agency. Seems sexist to me. We dont reassign blame like this with male failed candidates, but with Hillary and Harris everyone wants to paint them as purely victims.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I blame her loss on her being a bad candidate who wouldn't push popular positions. Harris was a week candidate from the start. She dropped out of the primary in 2020 with only 3% support and then got the VP nom.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

They were both extremely bad candidates who should not have been in a position to run. If the party had been allowed to speak they would not have been allowed to run.

They weren't really candidates that failed on their own merits, they were set up to fail by being put into a position they should never have been in.

Neither Hillary nor Kamala could have won a primary that wasn't rigged in their favor. Since they didn't get to their position as candidate based on their own merits, it's reasonable to describe their failure in similar terms.

That said, there is such a thing as more than 100% blame, and this is a situation where A lot of people have a lot of blame. Those two women are 100% responsible for the stupid decisions they made. No one can take that failure away from them, but because of the nature of the mistake, there were a lot more people who should also be blamed and similarly excommunicated from politics.

There are elements of sexism here, but that's just endemic to politics. They didn't fail because of sexism, they got to where they were because of it and were set up to fail by it, but there are a lot of problems here beyond and before sexism.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 67 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

It's ridiculous to think that Harris couldn't have done what she wanted. Once you're named the nominee, that's it. They're not going to back out.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 49 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If she was unwilling to break from him because of his wishes, even if she was theoretically able, that speaks volumes about her as a leader.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If she runs again, we lose again.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

IF there is another election, HitlerPig will get 98% of the vote, and he'll use his "popularity" with the American voters to justify defying the Constitutional prohibition against a 3rd term.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 53 minutes ago

Elections are run at the state level, so they won't be that interfered with.

Not that it will matter; rigging the states with Republican state governments is more than enough

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh I'm with you on the big IF. Hell, I'll be surprised if we even have legitimate mid-terms.

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 159 points 22 hours ago (17 children)

Let's blame Joe so Kamala can run again.

Not fooling me, DNC. I smell what you're cooking.

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[–] Lunar_Voyager@lemmy.world 54 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The way democrats talk: "We're turning the page and letting the daylight in!"

The way democrats act with a majority: "We couldn't get any daylight this time, but we did pass these bipartisan flashlights which are known to explode occasionally due to republicans demanding amendments be added to the batteries."

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[–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 115 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

To be honest, this is just a signal that she probably wouldn't have been a good leader. Better than Trump, sure, but that bar is so low it's a tripping hazard.

She should have told Biden to pound sand after locking up the nomination.

But we should verify the claim before passing judgement.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 25 points 19 hours ago

Suddenly her campaign choices make a lot more sense...

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