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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

It's not ideal, but we're pretty fucking far from ideal.

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

i won't give a cry for fascists getting banned.

CRTITICAL SPORT

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

what happens when Donald duck streaks across the screen naked

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Romania pointing the way on how to handle fascism. The only thing democracy can’t tolerate is autocracy, and should therefore act on it. And they have some experience in this regard.

Take my upvote Romania!

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you think this is an effective way to fight fascism id suggest you read some books into the history of fascism

[–] krf@szmer.info 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Obviously the most effective way to fight fascism is to elect fascist government and wait until fascists show their incompetence as a governing party, while established institutions and system of checks and balances is ensuring the integrity of next elections, so the fascists will be gone once and for all after a single term.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 2 points 39 minutes ago

Let me quote something here

If you think this is an effective way to fight fascism id suggest you read some books into the history of fascism

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 17 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The Romanian electoral commission did that. I'm sure they had their reasons - the article cites "statements contradictory to democratic values" (last November) and Russian interference. I guess they have something to back that up with. The Guardian does not say, but until someone convinces me otherwise (edit: that will be really hard after me reading this) I will give the electoral commission the benefit here.

This is government at work. If they really wanted to suppress democratic voices they'd not go about it in a way that just gives free publicity to her and better chances to the remaining far-right candidate.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

We like democracy but only when you have the same views as the current ruling power

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, let people elect a dictator! What could possibly go wrong?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I hope I'm getting where you are pointing at.

No, I don't like how this kind of events play out but for all that is worth, it can not be allowed for groups that espouse extreme ideologies to even gather the smallest of support.

Democracy as been shown, countless times, it is a very fragile system, vulnerable to players willing to manipulate and distort it in order to achieve personal gains, at the detriment of a large majority.

These far right groups prey upon the insecurities of the masses, create and steer the exact narrative to create distrust and obfuscate real issues and preveny people, either by force or by erasure, to raise doubt or demand proof of their claims.

Let's be tolerant, but let's not be tolerant with those who are intolerant.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

You can use whatever words you want to describe it, but at the end of the day when we have the majority of the population voting for something you don't want, you're the minority. Trying to fight against the rights of the majority of the population is a dangerous battle only previously tried by authoritarian dictatorships and similar regimes.

No one seriously tried to stop these people from becoming candidates, but now they have support of the public the ruling powers oppose them.

Also worth mentioning, in Romania, political left and rights seem to be flipped. Far right wing candidates want more rights for gays, etc. So can get confusing depending on which media sources are used.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

Trying to fight against the rights of the majority of the population is a dangerous battle only previously tried by authoritarian dictatorships and similar regimes.

That's definitely not limited to authoritarian dictatorships. Seeing as you're posting from an aussie instance, Whitlam's dismissal comes to mind, along with lockdown laws (whether the majority approved or not).

Also worth mentioning, in Romania, political left and rights seem to be flipped.

The left-right framework just isn't useful. As you've pointed out, it's relative and changes massively between each country.

This video helps explain in more depth and proposes a more useful, effective political model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nPVkpWMH9k

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Let the majority do whatever it wants to minorities, says liberal democracy understander.

[–] breadguy@kbin.earth -2 points 18 hours ago

democracy dies in epicnesss