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[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 10 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Still in the top ten for February, so, eh.

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Do you have data for Jan 2025 and/or Feb 2024?

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Are these sales or ownership stats?
If it's the latter, that's hardly surprising

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

These are stats for Neuzulassungen, meaning cars that get a license plate for the first time. So it’s a proxy for sales.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Oh ok, that's disappointing then :/

[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

Not tobrain on the parade, but the source seems to be an online reader survey from t-online.be. That means the scientific value of this is pretty low. For decent surveys, you need a random sample. In this case, you need to be a visitor of t-online, and you decide for yourself that you want to participate. That's already enough to skew results. Add to that that there's a lot of online activism against Tesla (for obvious reasons), so the poll could have been partly hijacked. Such a low number of people who don't care or haven't heard about Tesla going rogue is not realistic anyway. There's a lot of people who are weird, contrarian or simply avoid all news.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 5 hours ago

Why hasn't the country banned them?

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Jokes on them the US is going to make that illegal!

Spoiler/s

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly... the irs thinks it has juristriction overseas. You still "have" to pay tax to the irs (as an american citizen) if you're a citizen in another country and work in that country full time.

my point: the /s might actually not be there for a long time

[–] muh_shroom@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

Bold of you to think the IRS will still be around in a couple years.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 41 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The 6% are the shit AfD supporters.

[–] turtl@lemm.ee 25 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

who are poor af and couldn't even afford one anyway lmao

That’s not true. Most AfD voters have a decent enough income, they make more than the average German. Education is average as well.

https://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2017-03/iw-studie-afd-waehler-gehalt-bundesdurchschnitt

Lots of small businesses owners and hard working contractors vote AfD. The OG nazis were also mainly supported by petit bourgeoisie. Fascism can be described as extremism of the center in a way.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 5 hours ago

Its official. Musk is even worse than Hitler, then.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 11 hours ago

Germany leading the way.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 45 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Current owner of a Tesla in Germany. Won't buy again. In the recent owner survey I told them as much, and why.

[–] MooseWinooski@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Good. Got any sweet stickers?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 4 hours ago

I got one last week "I bought this before Elon went crazy", the car is currently to dirty to put it on

[–] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

I like these ones below. While I consider Star Trek the utopian ideal, and as a Canadian could use some Picard daddy energy in my life right now, this whole shitstorm feels more like a resistance, so went with Star Wars.

I really don’t dig the “I bought this before…” versions because they’re face saving, wordy, and somewhat defensive.

To paraphrase Office Space, “Why should I apologize, he’s the one who sucks!”

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago

And the other 6% deserve a good beating

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 87 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (9 children)

Europe dislike Teslas now, Asia, Africa and Latin America have BYDs, Canada and Australia are in a trade war with the US... idk why TSLA isn't tanking more

[–] derzeppo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

They stay in the green by selling carbon credits.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

i mean it always looked overvalued to me

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

It's always been immensely overvalued

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 40 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

We have BYD in Europe too. See them all the time.

Tesla already was somewhat ridiculed for trying to be above the law. In Germany they tried to circumvent environmental protections and here in Sweden the unions have been fighting them because they’re trying to circumvent our labour market. There’s been strikes for well over a year now.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I’ve seen one or two byd’s around in London lately. Also anecdotally there are now a few byd hybrid London busses.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh right. My hometown switched to BYD electric busses back in 2019. They've since been superseded by Mercedes electric buses though. The BYD ones were kind of rubbish, at least back then.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s fair - in London there are still a lot of the horrible old Volvo diesel / electric hybrids that badly need replacing imo. Not sure how the byd ones held up, they were certainly nicer when new tho

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

When completely new there were problems with the door firmware. I commuted via bus at the time and often got late because the bloody doors would crash. It got ironed out though, and the buses were really nice at that point. After a couple of years though, they'd start wailing like banshees, it was pretty horrible. I'm thinking that's why they replaced them, but I honestly don't know.

All that said, they were better than the diesel buses they replaced. Nicer, more spacious, less noisy.

[–] Dimmer@leminal.space 2 points 8 hours ago

Commercial in White House is not for nothing, MAGA loves TESLA now. I started to see more in the nearby town.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago

Retail investors and dumb spectators.

A lot of Telsa’s stock is governed by the same valuation and gambling logic that applies to crypto and meme stocks.

But that shit has limits.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's long been past any kind of real valuation. I think that's why it's basically impervious to bad news. Everyone's bought in too deep.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

ticking bomb then

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 12 points 15 hours ago

Investor hype on AI and androids?

A lot of it is institutional investors and funds that move very slowly. If it drops out of the s and p things will start getting fun.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure how much their non-automotive market is, but they do have other product lines, like solar, battery backup, etc.

Their battery systems run the gamut from Powerwalls for the home to huge utility-grade systems that power companies around the world purchase.

I have a neighbor that has solar panels & a powerwall. He showed me how over the summer excess power is sold back to the power utilities as part of a distributed virtual power plant that consists of over 1200 powerwall owners around the region.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

It’s such a shame melon husk is such a massive weenie, because they have or had some interesting products there. Oh well, I suppose you can buy whole home battery systems from other suppliers hey ho.

[–] OpticalAccount@aussie.zone 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Australia isn’t in a trade war. There’s no chance Aus will tariff US imports. The country is an export nation, they can’t afford to respond.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 12 hours ago

The same could have been said about Canada, and look what's happened over there. Nah, I'm more worried that the reasons we wouldn't hit the Americans back would be that Labor is a party of whining invertebrates and the Liberals would be more than happy for us to become the fifty-first state.

[–] FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee 65 points 15 hours ago

Thank you my German people.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Tesla is the foundation of ENazis wealth. It must be destroyed to literally save the world.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 28 points 12 hours ago

That's my argument. People with Tesla cars are all carrying on about separating the product from the CEO and I'm like... your money is the difference between him being a relatively harmless crazy person ranting in a public park somewhere, and being the president of the US whose actions are causing real world hardship to a heap of people.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I sold my (single share of) TSLA stock quite a while on principle. I didn't realize at the time that it would also be a great financial move.

[–] MooseWinooski@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

You could be a troll and replace it with a single share of TSLQ lmao.

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Apple pie only has like an 80% approval rating, so he’s more hated than Apple pie is loved by a lot

[–] FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee 7 points 15 hours ago

lol, I love apple pie. I would never let anything happen to any Apple pie. That been said, fuck Elon.