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Jesus, this guy gets dumber and more dementia addled by the day.

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[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Why not just cut to the chase, make a presidential order saying that everyone must buy a Tesla and if you don't (or can't) you will be punished?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Before people start throwing around the Mussolini quote, as much as I'd LIKE to believe it, apparently it can't be sourced. :(

The quote isn't WRONG, it just can't be sourced to Mussolini.

https://politicalresearch.org/2005/01/12/mussolini-corporate-state

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini

It is generally attributed to an article written by Mussolini in the 1932 Enciclopedia Italiana with the assistance of Giovanni Gentile, the editor.

The quote, however, does not appear in the Enciclopedia Italiana in the original Italian.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Giovanni Gentile being otherwise known as the philosopher of fascism and the guy putting ideas straight into Mussolini's brain. Whether it's a paraphrase or direct translation, the idea itself is certainly covered by the more famous "everything within the state" quote and describes an undeniable goal of fascism.

[–] VeryInterestingTable@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

Translation: Stop resisting!

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago

And yet I shall continue

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

If you don't buy a model x every day then you're getting arrested

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Hahahaha.

So whiny.

[–] goofus@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago

Another episode in the series: "Krasnov Speaks".

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Then deport me to Norway.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Related, BDS is illegal in the US meaning that you are legally obligated to purchase things from Israel. It's unenforceable on an individual level, but it's used to come after people who promote or organize the boycott. If Trump and the Republicans wanted to make it illegal to boycott Tesla, they would have legal precedent because of that absolute lunacy.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

BDS is illegal in the US meaning that you are legally obligated to purchase things from Israel

It is illegal to openly, publicly boycott Israel if you are a government contractor. That's pissing in the face of the First Amendment, but that's about all. You are not obligated to buy anything, though you have to follow "level playing field" procurement guidelines, same as any other government contractor. But anyone who knows the game can craft a set of requirements and a procurement scoring system that will steer the result to any vendor you want to be awarded the contract. And if you're on a government contract and refuse to be a supplier to an Israeli firm, you might have some complications, but those can probably be worked around as well.

It's a bit like jury nullification. If you're ever put on a jury where a miscarriage of justice is taking place, don't use the word "nullification." Just repeat that the evidence does not support the charge. You are not obligated to explain your reasoning. Just show every sign of complying with the process, while refusing to stifle your conscience.

This kind of bureaucratic bullying has been around a long time and is probably going to get worse. The Red Scare was full of even worse bullshit. But realistically, this current Trump brainfart will only potentially affect government contractors trying to acquire vehicles. And adding a requirement for reliability, and including it in the ROI calculation that's part of the business case, will ensure that you're never forced to buy a Tesla.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's not limited to government contractors. They push it into anything they think they can get away with it, and into things they know they can't just for show. For example, in Dickinson, Texas, hurricane victims were required to sign a pledge that they wouldn't boycott Israel in order to receive funds. Companies also face retaliatory legal action if they make moves in that direction, like how AirBNB had to reverse it's decision to shut down operations in the illegal settlements.

The idea of "it's fine because you can do it anyway, just don't say that you are" is still a problem. Boycotts should not have to operate on "don't ask, don't tell." Like, you're "allowed" to participate in a boycott in the same way gay people in the 50's were "allowed" to be gay.

Regardless, as I said, there is legal precedent to ban Tesla boycotts in the same way, such a ban would obviously be unenforceable on the general population, but for example if you're a teacher, they could make you sign a contract saying you won't boycott Tesla and you could be fired if you post otherwise on social media.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure Trump saying liberals have to buy Teslas will drive up sales.... how could that possibly fail?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 3 weeks ago

This is how you know it's working. See also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Why the hell would I want to buy anything from the fucking Nazis? The competition has surpassed the shit from Tesla.

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

To quote that iconic bus driver: gargle my balls

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

"buy a tesla or GO THE FUCK TO PRISON!"

- Drumpf.

[–] gimmelemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If the king don't like it...

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Your not allowed to do that

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Giving cars more rights than women.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

BUY PRODUCT. something something freedom camp.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

what does that even mean? everyone who does not buy a Tesla within a month is a criminal and will be imprisoned?

[–] notarobot@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Does anyone have a link to the post? I did not see it In the article

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I called it! I said they'd try and do a reverse class action lawsuit and sue people for not buying his cars.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I might be interested once his down market options become available. Only because anything equivalent has been tariffed to nonexistence.

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