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[–] mobius_slip@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I was involved in the BLM protests of 2021. The cops were legitimately pulling people off the street into unmarked, black vans. Some of the people that were grabbed were not even involved in the protests, they were just outside past the citywide curfew.

I had heard about this happening in Oregon and Washington through the ever reliable internet, but I didn't actually believe it until I saw it happen in my moderately sized Midwestern city.

[–] rain459@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a huge amount of fake and bot accounts on social medias, probably as much as the population of many cities, made and used to manipulate the public opinion.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The MOVE bombing. The fact that the Philadelphia police dropped not one but TWO explosive devices on the roof of their house via helicopter is still nuts to me. What made it even worse was the fact that the fire department showed up and let it continue to burn, destroying 61 evacuated neighboring homes and leaving 250 people homeless.

Any time I tell someone about it that hasn’t heard the story, they’re skeptical.

Another one is the time I learned that I was under local surveillance for being an activist that was part of a local non-violent black liberation org. The police would send a unit weekly to check my whereabouts and movements. I learned through a friend of a friend that didn’t even know who I was, but knew my name and that I was on a surveillance list. Pretty sure they were checking in on everyone involved.

Edit: if this comment has taught me anything, it's that you're better off not engaging with pointless nitpickers and police apologists. Fuck me for having an opinion.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just looked up MOVE after reading this comment. Amazing power dynamics (from wikipedia):

In 1978, a standoff resulted in the death of one police officer and injuries to 16 officers and firefighters, as well as members of the MOVE organization. Nine members were convicted of killing the officer and each received prison sentences of 30 to 100 years.[2] In 1985, another firefight ended when a police helicopter dropped two bombs onto the roof of the MOVE compound, a townhouse located at 6221 Osage Avenue.[3][4] The resulting fire killed six MOVE members and five of their children, and destroyed 65 houses in the neighborhood.[5]

The "city" was found to have used excessive force, and compensation in these cases comes from taxpayer money.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Philadelphia police wanted MOVE gone because they bucked the system and were at odds with the police over the ongoing murder of their people. That’s why they went to such lengths to eradicate them at their main row house. I remember reading about how it was essentially a shooting gallery for the police. As people tried to escape the building, police fired upon them.

It was an insanely careless plan borne out of hubris, hatred towards black liberation groups in a time of high racial tensions, and the police (again) thinking that they were above the law. I’m actually shocked there was even a lawsuit that stuck. That alone shows how fucked their whole plan was. Even the city and a federal judge couldn’t overlook this one.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Media has been using nonviolence as a propaganda tool to quash rebellions and silence dissent in the U.S. for decades.

Think about it: almost every single story you ever see across all media that has the heroes using violence in a positive light, especially revenge content, will always portray that character's actions as a negative even when objectively they are not. They always look to the same playbook of cliched arguments, one-liners, and tropes to do this. They are all oversimplified caricatures of or misrepresentations of nonviolence, violence, and revenge, justice, forgiveness, etc. A lot are just outright lies or ad-homs.

It's even departmental policy in some companies to force writers to write their scripts in such a manner.

The only director I've ever seen rebel against it is Quentin Tarantino and I don't think he has been doing it deliberately.