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Elon Musk is proving that Europe can no longer take the risk of buying American (www.telegraph.co.uk)

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[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

We can! Lots of great products from America.

It's only one of 30 countries in America that we need to avoid, the USA

[–] DeHesse@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

yeah the new trump administration is a real game changer and fuels every economy in the world, just not the one he would like to. Thanks Donald ❤️

[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 60 points 2 days ago

This American tries not to buy American.

[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The future of European procurement?

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Accompanied by Rafales and Typhoons

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago

Buy Canadian :D

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 11 points 2 days ago

That's been a major issue for Trump regarding the trade war. He thought he could get away with other countries not pacing retaliatory tarrifs, but that's what they are going to do.

[–] genfood@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

Still, where IRIS 2 🦧

[+] index@sh.itjust.works -6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I got called out as a russian troll in the past for saying that european countries should tell USA government and their military to fuck off.

You all drunk on propaganda, the same politicians in charge now shouting for the rearming of europe are the ones who for decades made every sort of deal with USA government and bought billions of weapons from them.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, you get called out as a Russian troll for defending the invasion of a sovereign country.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've never defended the invasion of a country by another. You coming out with such bullshit highlight that you are drunk on propaganda.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You've done that several times. You said that you consider Russia right to invade Ukraine, because "Ukraine is full of nazis and we're freeing them." Why do you go online and tell people lies like that? Like you constantly mock Ukraine and Zelensky and make Putin defending posts and say you love your cousins in the front line and hope luck for the one out of a dozen who's still alive.

Remember when you said that you're kinda afraid you're gonna get called up, but told me conscription won't affect you for a few years yet? Right in the post where you capslocked that "Russia is right to invade Ukraine and do all these warcrimes. You called them 'righteous punishments for the Ukrainian Nazis'.

Fucking disgusting, not condemning Putler for his crime against humanity. You're defending the forceful relocation of children.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sounds like you are confusing me with someone else because i've never said the things you claim

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

So it's not you who ran away from the debate where you defended Russia and Putin implicitly, while pretending to agree?

You didn't pretend "yah, Putler is a criminal in the sense that all world leaders are", absolutely refusing to accept this and these?

That wasn't you, because you wouldn't do that...? ;>

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If someone else is passing through here and wants to look through index’s history, keep in mind that the truly heinous stuff is all gone because it was removed by moderators.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago

We are on lemmy and everyone can see the removed posts on the modlog in they want. Crashing a thread to attack another user with bullshit doesn't make you look too good.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Until almost 2 months ago, the USA wasn't the bootlicker of Putler that it is today. It was easier for Europe to buy stuff from the greatest power out there than to spend the money to develop the things in-house. American companies had both the technology and the capacity to produce whatever we needed, and depending on them did not pose any danger.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is trump second term go check all the military deals made before

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

@index yeah. But since his 1st term

He encouraged a coup where masses of people stormed the Capitol building based on fake allegations of vote rigging;
He was convicted as a felon, plus had classified documents scattered all across his house;
He immediately started his 2nd term by dismantling the US democracy, while Musk and other members of his apparatus started doing the same with the democracy of their allies (e.g. see Germany);
He started bullying the country the US was supposed to defend against Russia;
His entourage started talking about a US pullout from NATO and the UN;
~~He stopped any military drills in Europe under NATO~~ They plan to stop any military drills in Europe moving forward, and most importantly...
He's eyeing for a third term in the White House for no fucking reason. That means there's at least 8 years on his disposal to fuck Europe big time compared to the previous 4-year term.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago

Day 1 of his 3rd term, he would get black bagged by an agency, amid several other disappearances and tragic accidents that day.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He stopped any military drills in Europe under NATO, and most importantly…

https://www.itamilradar.com/2025/03/06/aerial-surveillance-over-the-baltic-nato-aircraft-on-mission/

Nothing stopped they actually increased the drills check for yourself

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They're planning to do something else moving forward

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Don't argue that guy he's a Russian troll

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 day ago

Politicians always plan to do things and lie to the public about it

Meanwhile exercises go on:

https://www.itamilradar.com/2025/03/10/new-black-sea-mission-2/

[+] teft@lemmy.world -17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If i were trying to improve the standing of my country and knew that the EU and US being economically linked is bad for me I would start a campaign to get the EU to stop buying american in order to weaken everyone. Divide et impera.

[–] kwr112233@feddit.dk 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’d get the Americans to vote in an absolute idiot of a leader 🤔

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

TWICE.

[–] kwr112233@feddit.dk 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice and… you’re stupid.

As another American president once said.

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Turns out the particular president in question was, in fact, the height of American Conservative sophistication!

[–] axh@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would start a campaign to get the EU to stop buying american

Yup, nothing to do with the trade war started by applying tariffs left and right, or threatening to take over part of the European country, or interfering with the UK and German elections... It must be some unknown conspiracy instead /s

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Steelmanning their point, they might not be saying that all this is orchestrated by some third party (e.g. Russia), but that they are benefiting from it.

To which I'd say: unfortunately, the same holds true for the alternative.

[–] axh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I totally agree with the part of the comment that Russia benefits from weakening the EU and US alliance. What I am criticising is the suggestion that the problem started with boycotting US products.

Like everything the US did before, didn't matter. That comment is dangerously close to the bully logic that Russia and Trump share: "we can do whatever we want to you, it's your fault if you fight back"

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't forget cozying up to a nuclear-armed madman who's ruthlessly invading your neighbor and wants to take you next and then threatening to leave the defensive pact that keeps you all safe from said madman.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Europeans are reacting. Focus on what's causing that reaction maybe?