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Came across a list of pseudosciences and was fun seeing where im woo woo.

Lunar effect โ€“ the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

Ley Lines

Accupressure/puncture

Ayurveda

Body Memory

Faith healing

Anyway, list too long to read. I guess Im quite the nonscientific woowoomancer. How about you? What pseudoscience do you believe? Also I believe nearly every stone i find was an ancient indian stone. Also manifesting and or prayer to manipulate via subconscious aligning the future. oh and the ability to subconsciously deeply understand animals, know the future, etc

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[โ€“] angrystego@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the list is a mixed bag. There are things like flat earth, which are just against common sense, things like homeopathy, that sound promising to many people but were scientifically disproven many times.

And then there are many things that are mostly pseudoscience but can have some aspects that are true. For example aromatherapy is bullshit in general, but the smell of mint specifically was proven to have a beneficial effect on people's mood. And there could be more smelling efects we don't know about, so one day, we might witness the rise of a new science-based aromatherapy. Or Lysenkism - such a twisted terrible dark times for science! Such a disgrace, I always get angry just thinking about this totalitarian shit. But the Lamarckian evolution aspect is surprisingly not completely bullshit, as it turns out, now that we understand that genes are not the only vehicle for evolution and how things like epigenetics work. That's one point for Lamarck though, not for Lysenko.

Our decisions should be based on what was proven by science. That doesn't mean that's all there is. Otherwise we wouldn't need science anymore.

The list is very interesting, I've never heard of Minimum parking requirements and would definitely fall for that.

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[โ€“] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I subscribe to historical materialism, which is apparently a pseudoscience according to that Wikipedia article.

[โ€“] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Is that some kind of magazine

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[โ€“] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I believe that acupressure, meditation, reiki, etc. can actually help ease some chronic issues in the same way that a placebo drug does. The mind believes that it should feel less pain, anxiety, depression, etc so it does - to an extent. Afterall, if stress is harmful to our health then relaxation must be helpful.

[โ€“] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Like you, I ain't reading the list.

However, I'm not dismissive of stuff that's woowoo, but the stuff you listed has pretty much been shown to be nothing better than placebo effects, with the partial exception of the cycles of some things in nature matching the moon. But it isn't about the phase, per se (at least, the last serious publication I saw on it indicated it wasn't).

Thing is, woowoo placebo effect isn't a fake thing. Hence me not being dismissive. If something A: helps get someone through shit, B: doesn't hurt anyone, and C: isn't being used by someone as a tool to manipulate, it ain't my business to correct anyone.

Some shit, like acupressure has benefits beyond the placebo, even though it isn't for the claimed reasons. When stuff like that works, it's very often the touch itself combined with the idea it will help that makes it effective enough to be worth keeping around.

But, with that kind of thing, that's only okay if it's conjunction with evidence based beat practices. That's when woowoo really shines. To help someone decrease stress, handle the horrible, and get through another day. Because it really does help in that regard.

See, it's known that religion serves that purpose. It's a psychological coping tool in one of its aspects. It doesn't matter if the same effect happens because of faith in a deity or not. It's that we can, to a limited degree, improve our selves by how our minds are functioning. So, if someone gets through their divorce, or being sick, or grieving by burning incense and playing with pretty rocks, IDGAF, I'll lie to their face and tell them that it's great, as long as they're also working on whatever it is more holistically with something evidence based.

Even then, I'd just try to convince them to add to, not abandon.

That being said, I wish some of that shit worked. It would be so fucking nice.

[โ€“] j4k3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

It is impossible to communicate pain effectively. Pseudoscience acceptance causes harm because it greys the line when situations are high risk and complicated. I am quite literally collateral damage with my entire life thrown away in this grey area. Not offended at you, just saying it is not harmless.

[โ€“] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm partial to pan-psychism. Consciousness is a property of matter.

[โ€“] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I do suspect Qi is a useful abstract concept for focusing and activating parts of our physiology. But while it feels like a single thing ("energy"), it is more a very complex bunch of processes the same way our consciousness feels like a single thing, but is actually a very complex bunch of processes.

[โ€“] droplet6585@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Time probably isn't real.

I don't know what to do with that information. It's just a weird gut feeling.

[โ€“] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The more I learn the more time feels emergent and not required.

[โ€“] deo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That... actually makes a lot of sense. Time could just be an emergent property of entropy. The second law of thermodynamics (the sum of the entropies of the interacting thermodynamic systems never decreases) could then be applied to explain why time appears to only move in one direction.

[โ€“] stray@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

I've often thought that maybe time is like color or weight. Electromagnetic radiation exists, but color only exists as an idea in our heads, how we're perceiving and interpreting what does actually exist. Our weight is variable based on our mass and gravitational effects in our environment, rather than being an actual property that describes us. Is what you're saying about time potentially being an emergent property of entropy the same deal? Are color and weight emergent? (I'm asking both about the actual wording and also how analogous the ideas are.)

[โ€“] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Seeing as the time axis doesn't seem special compared to spacial ones (especially in edge cases like black holes) I think time is just a perspective thing.

My take is that all particles must be moving at the speed of light through 4d space time. Everything always moves at the speed of causality, just not always in the direction you are looking from.

Do we know if the second law of thermodynamics is just a statistical thing? Does it work at extremely small scales? I know heat propagation could transfer from cold to hot. Its just so astronomically unlikely especially the more complicated the system gets.

[โ€“] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Counterpoint:

Time IS real, but like all dimensiona of space it must be traversed in a direction. We can only experience it in a linear fashion, but as it can be traversed there must be a forward and backward (regardless of if we can access it or not). Ergo, predestination is real because all moments are happening simultaneously in different locations upon the time axis.

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[โ€“] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

The full moon does something to people's brains and makes them act weirder than usual.

There's been more than one time when I've been out and thought people were driving crazier than usual or people on the bus were being more psycho than they normally are, and I've looked it up and it's been within like 2 days of the full moon on either side.

People are ~70% water and the moon does move the entire ocean around, so maybe it's something to do with that?

[โ€“] Kanzar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

When someone says it's quiet at work, suddenly all these emergencies come in...

[โ€“] moufle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Osteopathy.

I thought it was scientifically proven, it seems that's not the case ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

[โ€“] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Tell that to my back/arm pain I had for months after a Ski accident... After 4 session and one good knack I literally felt how everything got back in place.

I felt so exhausted and somehow strange like a little bit drunk... But after a few weeks the pain went away ! Like magic !

So yeah, science can't prove everything but that doesn't mean it doesn't work or has some positive benefits ! Science has also been wrong numerous times or has been controlled by conflict of interests... What ever, choose your poison !

[โ€“] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Goodness, that's a lot to read.

I don't know if I believe any of them with actual faith instead of just chalking coincidental things up to some beliefs like that. The Lunar phase one comes to mind as something I'll often reference, but I don't actually believe in lunacy.

However, there's one about grounding methods in the health section. I definitely don't believe there's anything about elecron alignment or whatever bull that all is. But being on the ground helps me a lot with anxiety and relaxation in general. To the point where I prefer sitting in front of my couch vs on it, lol. So maybe I believe in that one, but not in any pseudoscience way??

[โ€“] Fondots@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I work in 911 dispatch, and I don't have hard stats to back it up, I'm not even really sure how it could be objectively measured, and I'm sure I have a whole lot of bias and such, but I'm pretty sure everyone I work with agrees that we just get weirder calls on full moons.

Not necessarily busier, or more severe, there's just a certain something that's hard to explain about a lot of our callers that seems to get a little strange on a full moon.

It's not something we're actively keeping track of, it's not like we have a reminder set on our phones for the full moon, but when we have one of those nights where everything just seems to be a little off and we check the moon phase, it seems like it's full or nearly full more often than not.

Although personally I think we see a bigger difference for a couple days after the clocks change for daylight savings time. My pet theory on that is it throws people's medication schedules off by an hour and it takes them a few days to readjust. Plus throwing off sleep schedules, and dementia patients who sundown may be up and acting up at a time they would otherwise be asleep.

I've had good luck with acupuncture. In one extreme case it fixed my bell palsy months faster that the doctor said it would heal.

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