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please don't!! linux repository people don't do that please!! firefox is still awesome and, i haven't really read the change the firefox foundation has made, but i really hope this does not mean it will stop existing on linux. will debian replace it with waterweasel?

i still like firefox and i'm content it's still open source at least!!!

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[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

Haven’t heard about any distros removing Firefox from the repos.

It’s possible that some distros may go an IceWeasel by default route, but I see that as unlikely.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 17 points 3 days ago

Debian literally used a de-Mozilla'ed fork called Icewesel for like a decade. It's fine. I never noticed any differences.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago
[–] Retropunk64@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't you just download it yourself if that's the case?

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 5 points 3 days ago

If anything, a fork would take its place. If something like that would happen. It doesn't even need much change, only the name and branding, and the user agreement. While doing so some defaults would change too probably, as a sideeffect. To be honest, I hope this happens.

[–] qpsLCV5@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Plenty of distros do package closed source software that does who knows what. i wouldn't worry about it for now. if you are on a distro that takes a hardline stance on privacy, it was probably gone a while ago, but i don't actually know any such distros right now.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i haven't really read the change the firefox foundation has made

Here you go: https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/Mozilla_introduces_TOS_to_Firefox#Mozilla%27s_Business_Model_=&_Potential_CCPA_Violations=

Or you can watch a helpful video. https://youtu.be/-8bTquKjzos

Basically, the internet is overreacting again, but it's partly because Mozilla is shit at communicating. They should know better and understand that we're all experiencing rapid enshittification. Corporations aren't trustworthy. You can't just remove mention of "not selling your data" and just expect average people to parse the laws and your ToS and your Privacy Policy and connect all the pieces.

[–] hummingbird@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would contradict you. The internet is not overreacting, Mozilla and parts of its community try to downplay the issue at hand.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

Because they won't read. They look at the change of the ToS only and think that they understand what has changed.

I don't particularly care which browser people use; I just want people to be able to make an informed decision, thus I provided evidence that the internet is overreacting. Where's yours?

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

Firefox is licenced under a copyleft license. Mozilla can't stop distros packaging it even if they wanted to.

They'd need to replace the branding, but that's not a big deal.

[–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I highly doubt it. Even if they did though, if they just replace it with a firefox fork it could work pretty much as a drop-in replacement.

[–] zonnewin@feddit.nl -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Firefox has effectively become spyware, and so, yes, it should be replaced. There are several forks that work well. I'm using Floorp (stupid name, but really nice with some improvements over vanilla Firefox). Zen is another one gaining in popularity. Try them out! Don't let Mozilla walk away with your data.

[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Look up ffupdate on GitHub. The latest vanilla Firefox on any Linux with just 1 command (after it's been configured)

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 3 days ago

yeah install firefox from a site I never heard before instead of the distro's repos that I already trust.