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A woman in Colorado has been arrested after police caught her with expIosives at a TesIa dealership, police said.

The 40-year-old suspect, Lucy Grace Nelson, was arrested on Monday after the Loveland Police Department launched an "extensive investigation" following a series of vandaIizations at the dealership in Loveland, Colorado.

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[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 307 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So she was returning her cybertruck

[–] Lon3star@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

Heyyyy ohhh!

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 189 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh my god! That's horrible!

That she got caught.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 105 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They've got the wrong person, this woman was with me at the time in question

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

that can't be right, I swear I saw this exact person at the grocery near me, thousands of miles away from Loveland

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[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago

I am also Spartacus. We are all Spartacus. It couldn't have been her, I saw her somewhere else. I think with you.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 136 points 1 month ago (13 children)

To all the pearl clutchers, it was Molotov cocktails and graffiti, not IEDs. She was vandalizing the dealership.

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/lucy-grace-nelson-vandalism-suspect-tesla-dealership-colorado-federal-charges/

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And upgraded to federal charges. Kash Patel is spending government resources on this for his partisan buddy instead of rightwing extremists and insurrectionists.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 55 points 1 month ago (4 children)

A potential 20 year sentence! For $5,000 in damages to luxury vehicles.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, the J6 terrorists are pardoned.

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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

In the eyes of the law a Molotov cocktail carries the same penalties as a pipe bomb, both "unregistered Destructive Devices". It's the ATF's bailiwick so it's not unusual that the feds are involved, strictly speaking.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh those mischievous 40 year old kids. I say let her go with a warning.

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[–] DarkSurferZA@lemmy.world 105 points 1 month ago (18 children)

Ok, I need to explain this to people, but don't blow up or damage Tesla's at dealerships. Aside from the usual about being socially responsible, the dealers and Tesla loses money when cars can't sell and are stuck on lots. Tesla can't sell a dealership a new car if the dealership can't sell a car and make space for a new one on their lot. But if you blow up or damage the cars, the dealership just claims from their insurance, they get the money as though they just sold a car, and they have lot vacancies, so Tesla can sell the dealership more stock.

Let the swasticars just sit there and depreciate on the dealership floor. That's the real way to fuck em.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TBF insurers could start denying coverage if it becomes an obvious concern: and it very clearly is.

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[–] Art3sian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I’ve heard the best thing people can do against Musk is to vandalise privately purchased Teslas. I’ve heard that will put mass fear in the market not to buy them.

I’ve heard that vandalising commercially owned Teslas will only result in insurance payouts and more Teslas being made.

I’ve heard that the best way to vandalise privately owned Teslas is to use spray paint, which is relatively easy to clean off (not hurting the owner too much) while being very media-affective.

That’s what I’ve heard.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Insurance isn't a magic money machine that erases costs; insurance isn't free money. This is the logic that results in thieves driving small mom and pop shops out of business. Someone will hold up a gas station thinking, "well, insurance will pay for it." But every time a business makes a claim, their insurance premiums go up. And just like car insurance, if you make too many claims, eventually you'll be dropped from coverage, or your premiums will become completely unaffordable. You simply become too great a risk for insurance to cover.

Honestly, torching a Tesla dealership is likely the quickest way to get it shut down. If you just let the cars sit there, they'll keep cutting the asking price until they sell. Teslas might be unfashionable, but plenty of people living paycheck-to-paycheck will ignore the bad optics if it means they get a hell of a deal on a new car.

But if a dealership is burned to the ground? The dealer was probably already resenting being in the business before the arson attack. Most of these guys became Tesla dealers back when Elon had a very different reputation. But now they can't just walk away; they have contracts, leases to pay, a franchise agreement, and a pile of inventory that won't sell. Hell, they probably have once or twice contemplated burning the whole place down themselves just to get the insurance money. And now they have the perfect opportunity to walk away, without having to commit felony insurance fraud. Some random do-gooder just came by and did the criming for them. Sure, they could rebuild, but why? They have an insurance check for millions of dollars. They could spend that rebuilding, getting new inventory etc. But why? Why go to all that trouble, just to end up back selling cars people revile?

I think most people in that situation, unless they were already die-hard MAGA types, would simply chose to take the win and walk away. Maybe they stay in the car business and open up a franchise with some other automaker. Maybe they get out of car sales all together. But there's little reason to stick with Tesla.

That's the real value of arson right now. There are tons of Tesla dealers who would honestly probably welcome an arson attack against their dealership, as long as no one was in the building at the time. They could never say so publicly, but honestly, an arson against a Tesla dealership might be the best thing that ever happened to many of the dealership owners.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 79 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] skaarl@feddit.nl 74 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Isn't this exactly what negotiating with labor unions so workers have good quality of life was made to prevent?

More Americans will become terrorists, and it's no surprise. They have nothing to loose.

[–] hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 month ago

More Americans will become ~~terrorists~~ freedom fighters

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“…caught trying to plant additional explosive devices”

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 23 points 1 month ago

heh, I immediately thought: "what, was she putting keys in the ignitions?"

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 46 points 1 month ago

Although it appeared first glance to be an explosive device in an awkward moment of enthusiasm, it's actually just a Roman Celebratory Sparklemaker.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Outside of one-in-a-billion shots like Mangione, we're still at the discomfort level of unreliable whackadoos being the only ones to try violent direct action. Which means that instead of picking targets that would actually make an impact, they're picking personally symbolic targets that they have easy, ready access to. And they're not even hitting those targets with real success / possibly creating innocent collateral in the process.

We aren't there yet.

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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It was't explosives

Nelson returned to Loveland Tesla while in possession of additional incendiary devices, along with materials attributed to vandalism

Nelson was immediately arrested and booked into the Larimer County Jail after being charged with explosives or incendiary devices use during felony, criminal mischief and criminal attempt to commit a Class 3 felony, authorities said.

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[–] korendian@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I don't have anything against sticking it to the man, but there are better ways to go about this.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

There's much better targets for the explosives

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[–] LettucePrey@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

Not all heroes wear capes

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it fair that this woman is locked up somewhere while Elon Musk roams free?

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Just wait til someone invents the first practical incendiary drone that can be easily made on a consumer 3D printer.

In principle, it's quite simple. All a drone has to do is take off, travel to a fixed set of GPS coordinates, land, and then activate an incendiary of some kind. Maybe a thermite charge, maybe something simpler to set off.

This tech already exists due to the Ukraine conflict. But to my knowledge, it's never been packaged in a form that's easily replicable by an average random person in their home. But I see no reason why it couldn't be. And when it does, all Hell's going to break loose.

On the more class liberation side, it will make burning down the assets of the rich much, much easier and harder to stop. On the other hand, it will also make it easier for fascists to target those resisting fascism. You're an activist of some sort. One night, a drone lands on your roof at 2 AM and sets fire to your house. Who did it? Who knows. Good luck finding out.

Hell, on a large scale, this will make it possible for a single individual to cause a disaster on the scale of the firebombing of Dresden. Consider the extremely dry weather and accompanying fires in Los Angeles. That moment, when the city was dry as tinder and the winds were blowing strong. Imagine if at that moment, someone had decided to release a few thousand incendiary drones on the city. Maybe they saved them up, just for this purpose. Consider how valiantly the fire fighters there worked to protect Los Angeles. And now imagine an alternate history where at that moment 5,000 structure fires erupted simultaneously across the city, including multiples started on the roof of every fire station.

The technology already exists. It's just a matter of someone figuring out how to package it in an accessible form. When that happens, God help us all.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Cheap gps enabled drones are very plentiful on the internet. You don't need to 3d print anything except maybe the parts to hold the bomb. Just need to reprogram them to have them go to a fixed point and trigger a relay with an explosive. It's trivial, and the fact that it is not common for most people with the skills to do it is because they have a lot to lose if they are caught. Once you take away enough rights and liberties that smart techy people have nothing left to lose then you will see more remote drone attacks.

This is the reason the federal government has been trying to ban drone companies like DJI, they are afraid of the cheap throw away bomb delivery vehicles.

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[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago
[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

No, she was with me all day.

[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

That "reporter" should be fired for using such inflammatory language. Word play absolutely intended.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

At first glance, from the thumbnail... I thought it was Christine Weston Chandler.

What a twist that would have been.

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[–] Aconite@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago

Beats the hell out of whining that you didn't vote for him.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

This woman is obviously mentally ill. No one in their right mind would repeatedly return to sabotage the same location again and again.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

The hero we deserve!

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