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[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

My parents were pretty open talking about sex and positive and it. They wouldn't let us watch too violent movies as kids, but movies with nudity were ok after we were like 12. I saw Blow-up before I saw Alien haha.

I think that's a big part of why Americans treat sex as a weapon and shame it, they teach you young that it's literally less socially acceptable than murder.

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

Um, my parents were entirely sex talk averse, but I've always practiced safe sex (condoms, birth control, spermicide, sober consent, etc).

This isn't the only way to promote safe sex. I learned safe sex as a 5th grader in my sex ed class, and I lived in the bible belt. Let's not pretend like just b/c some ppl don't want to talk about sex that it has some sweeping effect. This is an entirely disingenuous argument.

Not to mention, some ppl have a point not to let just anybody introduce sex to their kids. Sex needs to be framed appropriately so that it's consequences (and joys) are put in proper context. She has no standards of conveying the concept of sex she lives by other than to be "lewd". I don't want kids, but I wouldn't just introduce the concept of sex using just any medium or "representative". That's dangerous.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Just engagement bait from xhitter, nothing lewd but more engagement bait in her profile

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 1 points 6 minutes ago

Perhaps she is lewd outside of the internet.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

The foundation of sex is consent. If consent (including hearing about it and discussing it) is absent, then it is torture.

And I literally mean rape and sexual assault should be considered torture, because they are and they have the same effects on the brain as classic forms of torture, and indeed both SA and rape are used as a form of torture in war. Look at the mass rapes in Ukraine. It's not for sexual gratification, it's to torture people, and they also happen to get off on it.

People have different boundaries around what they discuss, especially personal info. It's important to respect that.

If you want to experience a less inhibited place, I recommend checking out a sex club.

[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

People talking about sex is not torture. Get a grip.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The foundation of every activity people do together is consent. That doesn't mean I need the consent of everyone in the room to talk about something.

The second paragraph has my full support, the first one seems weird to me.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No, and your sex ed is incomplete if you don't understand this.

No, not every activity is consensual. What consent is, is a deeper question and interaction than what you're making it out to be.

Consent is the foundation of sexual education and sexual interactions.

Freedom of speech is separate, and no, you don't "need the consent of everyone in the room to talk about something," but then you're operating outside of consent, and you may violate emotional boundaries. That includes triggering survivors who may not have expected you to violate social norms and who would have told you, "hey, I don't like talking about sex in front of people because I get panic attacks."

These interactions, being between more than 1 person, require the input of the other people. It's not a great look to force people into accepting sex as you see it or want it.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That includes triggering survivors who may not have expected you to violate social norms and who would have told you, "hey, I don't like talking about sex in front of people because I get panic attacks."

That's true but that's also true for any number of topics. This is a general "how/when do I talk about potentially triggering topics" issue and has nothing to do with sexual consent.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My dude, you set up the strawman argument of speech in a conversation about sexual consent. They were just trying to explain how they're not the same thing.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No. I reacted to someone claiming that hearing about sex needs the hearing parties consent, the same as sex needs consent which I don't agree with.

Talking about sex needs to be done with some caution to not upset others, like many other topics. It's different from the consent needed for engaging in sexual activities with someone.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

This makes sense to me. The idea that discussion of sex is itself a sexual act seems like it muddies the topic.

There's certainly ways of discussing sex that require consent, like erotic roleplaying or something where you're involving the other person directly, but that's not what the original post is about.

If any discussion of sex is taboo in public situations it leads to exactly the sort of issues OP is trying to reduce, where the norms of silence act as a shield for abusers.

[–] daepicgamerbro69@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

What? Humans talk about sex all the time even with all their puritanical taboos and restrictions. Do zoomers think they're the first generation to have raunchy language? Sharp difference between obscenity and regarding oneself as a complete sexual being.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

account suspended?

[–] WiseThat@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago

The goal of the anti-LGBT relious nuts is to force people into straight marriages because that's all that matters to religious zealots.

They know that if kids practice safe sex they won't get pregnant and 'shot gun marriage' rates will go down.

They know that if kids discover their gender or sexual identity is non-cis, non-het, or non-monogamous that they might not wind up having a traditional marriage.

The know that people who only have 1 partner in their lifetime are much, much less likely to successfully leave an abusive partner, meaning there's a higher rate of divorce if people learn that having multiple partners in your life is normal and okay.

They know that kids who are educated about healthy sex and consent in relationships are less likely to go along with a child marriage or an assigned marriage.

They know that removing sex ed means more teen pregnancy, more intimate partner abuse, and more child-rape. For religious people whose only goal is to get young women into marriages, those are good things.

Example: An actual elected official in the state of Missouri defending his stance that "Parents Rights" includes the ability to marry off their kids to adults at age 12, because "Do you know any kids that have been married at age 12, I do, and guess what, they're still married". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H6UJ-uCrgc

These people legitimately believe that it's morally correct to kidnap a 12 year old girl and force her to be entirely subserviant to, and dependent on, some pedophile husband who controls everything they do, because them being trapped in that awful situation means that there's one more marriage in the world.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Normalise sex by having it with me

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 16 hours ago

i just have a short nine-point questionnare

[–] pappabosley@lemm.ee 10 points 16 hours ago

It's almost like paedophiles would benefit from people being too ashamed to talk about sex.

[–] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Twitter user detected, opinion disregarded

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Guys...one important thing to know is that jacking off is super easy and free. Having sex with a partner is way much more energy intensive, gets you tired, it's expensive if you want privacy and protection etc...hotel house, marriage, kids, clothes diapers etc. And there are huge risks like marrying the wrong person because all you can think of is sex or because you got pregnant or got her pregnant. There's also the risk of STI including HIV AIDS. Its scary. So I agree let's be lewd so we can talk about it.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] zedgeist@lemm.ee 5 points 16 hours ago

me too thanks

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