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Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Nothing of value has been lost

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

One shitty CEO can destroy a company the same way one shitty president can destroy a country.

[–] AkashicOwl@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

due to limited ressources

Is it that hard to post the same thing on various social media? Maybe it is, I wouldn't know. But that sounds like a shitty excuse.

It looks like they're not up to date on X tho, hopefully they drop that shit. And they're on Bluesky, which, if not Mastodon, is a little bit better I guess.

I really don't get the hidden idea behind leaving Mastodon.

[–] noverby@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They are still on Bluesky, but they are not active anymore.

[–] AkashicOwl@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Their last post if from 14 days ago, not sure how often they usually post tho

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Another L by Proton. Why would they even say it and just stop posting silently.

Even if you agree with Proton's positions it's clear that Andy is just tanking the company's image with such rookie leadership mistakes.

Incredibly incompetence which makes you wonder how competent the actual code running everything is?

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

What ashame, I thought the CEO should be poked in the eye with a blunt stick for his Trump support but I would've kept with Proton if the business and his personal views were kept seperate

It appears this is no longer the case, at least proton provides a lot of decent services I don't mind abusing for free now.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I only use their Drive, I need a privacy focused alternative with a browser version in case I can't convince my family to download an app, any recommendations?

[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Filen.io is decent. Client is open source and storage is locally encrypted. They claim to use zero knowledge tech on their end.

Additionally, look into rclone to upload and automatically encrypt data to cloud providers. This way, cloud providers can't access your data regardless.

[–] mr2meows@pawb.social 2 points 22 hours ago

disroot.org maybe

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it's valve's linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

[–] raptore39@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

The lesser company needs to change their name or add a descriptor. Proton Woken? Proton SaaS? Proton Supreme? Proton x GOP? Protonaz...

[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Not that they'll care but I bought for two years but will find something else when that runs out.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Vaultwarden is the opensourced version of Bitwarden. One of the employees of Bitwarden is allowed to maintain it in their own time

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Bitwarden premium is crazy cheap anyway. I have proton in limited and still get bitwarden premium.

[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

+1 to Vaultwarden! I've been self-hosting it for the family and it works great.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago

I use KeePassX. there are android, linux and macos clients. i sync them between devices securely using Mega

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

keepass plus syncthing works well for me. I sync between linux, android, windows.

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends on what you mean by "good". I use KeePass. Works for me. Open source and free.

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[–] lemmus@szmer.info 13 points 1 day ago

I'm so disappointed Proton. So sad, but maybe you already live long eniugh to become evil? Time to move on, aah so bad..It was so great piece of software and so great company in this hell capitalist world.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I’m a proton user but I’m out of the loop. Please paste link or give me the tl/dr?

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Whoo boy. The Proton CEO posted a deeply troubling remark praising trump and republicans as the champions of the little guy, and lambasted democrats for being in the pocket of big tech. This, understandably, seemed rather... icky to a great many people, who dislike the idea of the service they trust for privacy kissing the ring of the Fascist in Chief/Putin's Towelboy/Elon's Hamberder Carrier. This might have been more palatable if it was made clear that Proton itself does NOT endorse the policies of Melon Husk's puppet administration and the MAGAt Horde, and that the original post was made by the CEO in his capacity as a private citizen, and not as the CEO of Proton.

So when, in the face of backlash from the federated community, Proton decided to just leave the fediverse, rather than clarify its position, but stay on Reddit & the Xitter, using the half-baked excuse of "it's too expensive for us to cross-post on this completely free system", people, understandably, took this to indicate that Proton, previously one of the most trusted privacy companies, may not be as independent as its swiss headquarters leads one to believe.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Hugely disappointing! Can’t believe in a single thing!

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Here's one archive reddit thread proton responded with that has since been edited to remove the comment.

https://archive.ph/quYyb

There's also a medium article from a random user that keeps being reposted to defend him. https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

But, it leaves out that Gail Slater left the FTC to became vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association which is a lobbying group for companies like Google, Amazon, eBay, and Facebook.

The Internet Association—a trade group for big technology companies such as Google, Facebook, and Amazon—spent nearly $176,000 to lobby the California legislature last quarter, according to the Washington Post. It is now running misleading ads on social media asking Sacramento lawmakers to weaken the law.

The group claims that surveillance-based advertising technology, which slurps up and broadly spreads consumers’ personal data without their knowledge, should be exempted from the CCPA. In truth, surveillance-based adtech is one of the worst privacy hazards that the law was designed to stop. It also provides little benefit to online publishers, and erodes trust between companies and their consumers.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

Which is a pretty big omission if the argument the founder/CEO made hinges on trying to make people believe Gail Slater having been on the FTC means she fights for little tech.

[–] Kng@feddit.rocks 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly I would be fine if they just setup some kind of mirror so their posts would show up across different platforms. The biggest issue with then not using mastodon is just not being informed of what is going on. They don't need to engage with people on mastodon just setup some kind of bridge.

[–] crozilla@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Everyone doing social media posts to multiple networks from a single app. This is a BS excuse from Proton. Very disappointing.

[–] noname_yet2077@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago
[–] sasquash@sopuli.xyz 184 points 2 days ago (7 children)

"limited resources" wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn't like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen

[–] FundMECFS@slrpnk.net 90 points 2 days ago

This is even more ridiculous given they have a bluesky account and all they need to do is follow the bridge and their content will be ported to mastodon. Literally 5 seconds.

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[–] stm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really dislike these commercial "private" solutions to surveilance issues we have but people always seem to prefer them because of strong marketing around.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

I mean, I don't have access to a personal international VPN array. For that kind of service, you pretty much have to get a commercial product.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 193 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Didn't the CEO of Proton lick the Trump boot recently?

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Yup, no sorry. Only bots left in reddit, have fun!

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I was an apologist for Proton during the whole Andy Yen commentary mess, but this is a really sus choice for Proton to be making.

All that matters under capitalism is growth. I wonder if the thinking here is that Proton has already captured all the geek/privacy enthusiast crowd that it's going to, and Andy Yen's social fuck-up basically killed any future expansion in that space, so this is part of a pivot to new markets and abandonment of areas they know they aren't going to win back.

If so, I'd expect to see Proton making expanded ad buys targeting preppers, libertarians, sov-cit types and other "I'm being watched!!" kooks.

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 103 points 2 days ago

On Mastodon, Proton is held to a higher standard. That’s why they left for the dumb masses instead.

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 65 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Looks like I'm leaving Proton. Fucking hell, not even a year ago I migrated from Gmail

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