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And this is why Democrats will keep losing.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 39 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

It isn't playing nice if you know the people you're approving are fascists. It makes them rolling over even worse. Republicans had no issue obstructing whenever they felt needed.

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 6 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Both parties need to split up into new parties. However, the money flowing is incentive to prevent them from doing that. Party splits have happened before several times in US history. This time the billionaires are funding all of this chaos thanks to legislation they started passing since post Watergate. How do we get them to split? Take the money out or give them more money than the billionaires can. Both resolutions that should not require drawing blood. How do we do that? I have no idea how to fund more money than billionaires, but being somewhat of an optimist, 99% of the population can probably figure out a way once they stop this tribal mentality of red vs blue.

[–] dustyb0tt0mz@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

the population can probably figure out a way once they stop this tribal mentality of red vs blue

which is never going to happen. one side has to lose. buy guns.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

She's saying the thing the Radical Tankie Left has been saying since the Clinton Era. It's good to hear someone in her position repeating the message one more time. But the fact that it has to come from a fringe member of a fringe caucus, rather than - say - Hakeem Jefferies or Dick Durban, is depressing.

We're so far away from a McConnell style "We're going to make Obama a one-term President" moment. Liberals simply cannot understand politics as conflict. Its always just make'n deals for your district's rich friends and stuffing your own pockets along the way.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago (4 children)

"We're literally losing our democracy!!!"

votes for it to continue for the 200th time in a row

"How could this happen?!"

helps them do it again

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Fuck the democrats. Let's take BERNIE and AOC, and replace the rest in the next election.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's part of what the republican partys done that's made them so successful. If your representatives don't represent you, primary them.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Shit, Democrats don't even give us a chance to primary, they just pick whoever they want.

In NJ, they had what was referred to as the county line, which would basically put the Democratic party's candidate first on a ballot. It was abolished this year, but the idea was that the positioning on the ballot made it easier for people to just vote down the line, but the result was that you didn't necessarily have a fair vote.

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[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 132 points 1 day ago (4 children)

AOC and others who are prepared to fight this bullshit need to spin off their own political party. I figure it would only take the departures of a handful of high-profile progressives to make the whole house of cards fall. The country is being pillaged, and the Dems’ response has been completely fucking impotent. Time to build a new party that isn’t run by geriatric milquetoasts.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 53 points 1 day ago (15 children)

spin off their own political party

I think the idea behind organizations like the Democratic Socialists of America and the Working Families Party is to have party-like organizations that work within the Democratic party so they don't act as "spoilers" given the 2-party system. (I could be wrong about that tho...)

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

This is how they lose.

If you had a party actually for the people, you would get a lot of the Trump votes as well. Most of MAGA weren't about racist bullshit or half of what's happened since the changeover.

They are tired of the corporate and government corruption and Trump promised (lied) to do something about that. We need to offer the same hope without all the hate. We need to offer change without just saying the other side is evil. It isn't the 'other side' that is the problem. It's the corrupt people in positions of power and the ones that tell you to blame the 'other side'.

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[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (23 children)

The elite Democrats aren't worried about fighting back.

They are trying to figure out how they can win the next round AND HOW THEY WILL USE THE SYSTEM TO THEIR OWN ADVANTAGE ONCE THEY REGAIN CONTROL.

We need another party that is actually for the people.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 176 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Playing nice again nazis always worked out fine. Remember how we defeated Hitler by just asking him politely to stop killing people?

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If there’s one thing corporate dems hate more than the Republicans, it’s AOC and her squad.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Most of the long timers are rich white people in safe seats, so Republicans are no threat to their personal interests but a challenge from the left is.

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