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[–] Idea@lemmy.dbzer0.com 320 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

In a traditional German toilet, the hole into which shit disappears after we flush is right at the front, so that shit is first laid out for us to sniff and inspect for traces of illness. In the typical French toilet, on the contrary, the hole is at the back, i.e. shit is supposed to disappear as quickly as possible. Finally, the American (Anglo-Saxon) toilet presents a synthesis, a mediation between these opposites: the toilet basin is full of water, so that the shit floats in it, visible, but not to be inspected. [...] It is clear that none of these versions can be accounted for in purely utilitarian terms: each involves a certain ideological perception of how the subject should relate to excrement. Hegel was among the first to see in the geographical triad of Germany, France and England an expression of three different existential attitudes: reflective thoroughness (German), revolutionary hastiness (French), utilitarian pragmatism (English). In political terms, this triad can be read as German conservatism, French revolutionary radicalism and English liberalism. [...] The point about toilets is that they enable us not only to discern this triad in the most intimate domain, but also to identify its underlying mechanism in the three different attitudes towards excremental excess: an ambiguous contemplative fascination; a wish to get rid of it as fast as possible; a pragmatic decision to treat it as ordinary and dispose of it in an appropriate way. It is easy for an academic at a round table to claim that we live in a post-ideological universe, but the moment he visits the lavatory after the heated discussion, he is again knee-deep in ideology.

  • Slavoj Žižek
[–] SerotoninSwells@lemmy.world 157 points 3 weeks ago

Damn an actual shit post.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 59 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Really expected something about the undertaker and throwing mankind or the like to pop up in this.

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 10 points 2 weeks ago

Kinda disappointed we didn't get one

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[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok that is actually Slavoj Žižek. I had to check.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 149 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

~~They used to need to check for parasites, in the shattered state of misery that existed after the war.~~ (Edit! This is wrong. TIL.) It's disgusting, but so is having parasites and not knowing it.

Pro tip for US people: Get ready! The world is not inherently a safe and stable place, and if you knock out the supports that are keeping it safe and stable for you, all kinds of really bad shit can happen.

[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 131 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean you're talking to US people who are on Lemmy. We know we're fucked

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'd wager 90% or more of us here that live in the US voted for Kamala, fully knowing the consequences of Trump.

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[–] waigl@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Remember the whole "Ivermectin, the dewormer, helps against Covid" thing in the US? Researchers did look at those claims and came to the completely unsurprising conclusion that, unless you have gut parasites, Ivermectin does not help with anything, including Covid. However, if you do have parasites, the Ivermectin can remove a comorbidity, which is obviously going to help with just about anything, including Covid. (Unless you have the wrong kind of parasite, and the sudden presence of rotting worm corpses throughout your body leads to septic shock…)

My takeaway from that is, modern day Americans probably have a lot more gut parasites than we used to think before Covid.

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

We Americans don’t actually have an obesity epidemic, we’re just completely full of parasites

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 29 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

IIRC, this design predates 1945, and is not specifically about parasites but digestive health in general. (There were a lot of health fads in late 19th/early 20th-century Germany, some more quackish than others.)

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

In a way, this is a tribute to longevity of bathroom porcelain. Even in Germany, this is far from modern. If you look e.g. into the bathroom department of German DIY stores, you won't find this design anymore.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

This may be an obscure fact, but World War 2 was not the first time that Germany was ravaged by war.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 8 points 3 weeks ago

TIL. That's wild. I always had just been aware of the rumor that it was from after the war, but yes, it looks like you're right.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you see brain worms, if you use one of these?

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[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

war

I had worms once and I found out only because of this type of toilet. I must have gotten them from a park where I was sitting down on the grass, without a blanket.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unless there were earthworms in your ass, that's not how parasitic worms work

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[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 120 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You sit on it reverse, and use the tank lid to hold your chocolate milk and comic books.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

They call it deutschbombing.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That’s known as a Dutch toilet. It’s designed to allow you to inspect your movements for health concerns more easily than the standard toilet.

If you’re concerned with leaving evidence, just toss a couple pieces of tp on top of the water before you go so it’ll slide down easily when you flush.

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dutch toilet

Heh heh. The Dutch get prefixed on all the fun stuff don't they?

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dutch East India Company…

Dutch invention of modern capitalism…

Dutch treat…

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So the dutch are to blame for everything...

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

I would have loved to have one of these a few years ago. I have a wilderness cottage and on the lake we're on, it was affected by a family of beavers who cause beaver fever, Giardiasis. It's a small lake so it was a problem and I got infected with it. Nothing serious or long lasting but when I went to the doctor, he asked for a series of stool samples to confirm diagnosis.

The dutch toilet would have been great for that. Instead I had to perform acrobatics and weird positions and use plastic wrap and cardboard and paper to try to make a clean collection .... and there were a few accidents along the way.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Brutal. I hear Giardia is nothing but suffering

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[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

btw this is far from common. only seen in a fraction of old homes

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 38 points 3 weeks ago

Living in germany for 30+ yrs. this WAS the norm everywhere but nowadays these are no longer built usually. So in fact only in badly maintained homes.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Basically, any house that had it's bathrooms renovated in the last thirty years or so won't have those any more

[–] Mim@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm a bit nostalgic for the good old Flachspüler.

... I'm getting old, aren't I?

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[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 weeks ago

In the UK we call that the "continental shelf."

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

I fucking knew it

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

This is clearly a woman's toilet. Everyone knows women don't poop.

[–] Micromot@feddit.org 19 points 3 weeks ago

That is an absolute positive because it makes you able to see if you are eating healthy/if your gut is healthy

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Us Germans, we take pride in our workmanship.

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

wtf is germanic culture? you mean every group the romans encountered towards the north?

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I LOVE these because:

  1. No splash (aka Poseidons kiss)
  2. No chance of dangling genitalia to touch the bowl

Toilets are hygiene facilities and this is the most hygienic design IMO

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

No chance of dangling genitalia to touch the bowl

I'd say that depends on the degree of dangle

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

Unless you make a high enough mountain it comes up and touches you. Ask me how I know l…. Or rather, don’t.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The downsides are the smell if you don't flush quickly after and having to brush the smear off more often.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

There was a German tip above that you throw down some toilet paper on the shelf to make things easier. Good to know if we ever encounter one of these.

[–] basic_user@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a writer who has commented on toilet designs and cultures where the Germans like to study and understand the world thus have toilets like this. Where the French are more about getting rid of waste fast and efficiently much like their love for revolution. And the English are more of a diplomatic middle ground. Can't remember his name and couldn't find him from a quick search. I'm sure you can.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

it will be a trip to Nessus to clean this toilet after a big one

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