Could this finally be the term that Trump speedruns the economy crash so the Republicans can be properly blamed for it happening due to their policies and leadership, rather than the Dems always inheriting a timebomb and wasting a whole ass term fixing it?
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Trump is already running with the line that the helicopter/plane collision was somehow Biden's fault, even though Trump and "Justin Hammer" fucked with the FAA. That's probably why they are speedrunning this collapse, they want to claim they inherited a mess, and shift blame for the consequences of their actions.
If you are a non-Trump voter in a red state, especially if you work for the flagship company or industry in that state, I would like to apologize on behalf of all Canadians for what our government is about to do. We don't want to do it but it is the only way to deal with a bully.
We don’t want to do it but it is the only way to deal with a bully. I think tariffs are bad for the people of the country that levies them. If another country puts a tariff on things my country sells, I'm for unilaterally disarming. Let the other country's people enjoy the dubious industry-protecting benefits of that tax, and let us enjoy the benefits of buying whatever is a good deal.
I think it's nonsense to think that when people freely trade money for goods, the person receiving the money "wins" and the person receiving the goods "loses". They made the trade because it was good for both parties.
I'm American, and we're pursing the opposite of what I think is good policy.
We need to seriously start planning states breaking up from the federal government.
California already got the ball rolling
Tariffs are the opposite of a "free market" measure and absolutely choke an interconnected economy. Look at the damage done to Cuba or North Korea by sanctions, it's the same principle. Getting to the real meat of why this is happening is like a forensic case study. Doesn't even benefit Trump unless he basically immediately reverses it and gives the old "see they capitulated to my demands" based on whatever random thing he dredges up.
It helps folks who are positioned to buy the dip.
It didn't "plummet" lol its less than a 1% change
But we only have 99 left!
99 to go!
Here we goooi! To the floor!
Then back up for that growth and profit!
Is this owning the libs, or does that come with the biggest economic crash in our lives for a third time?
Yea! That's the way Republicans and Trump support the economy!
I wonder if we outsiders have to rebuild the American economy with foreign aid and a new Marshall plan in 2029...
Critics argue the tariffs will harm consumers and businesses, creating global trade uncertainty and risking prolonged economic challenges in the United States.
God damn it media, can't we just call a fucking spade a spade. Anyone with a fucking functional brain knows these tariffs will harm consumers and businesses. "Critics," my ass. Informed people, more like.
It's this kind of shit that allowed us to get here to begin with, an unwillingness to just say the painful, obvious truth and speak it to power.
It will harm consumers and small businesses way more than it will harm the big corporations. And that's exactly the goal: consolidate the government by crippling their biggest enemy in the middle-class. It's how fascism operates: make sure only your supporters survive.
The big corporations already planned their loopholes into the order. For them, this helps them consolidate power by driving smaller businesses out, or to where they're forced to sell.
Hanlon's Razor does not apply to this administration. It is malice. They know exactly what they're doing.
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I'm looking at both the dow and the nasdaq, and they look fine. Where is this "plummet" the article is referring to? Not that I think the tariffs are good, but let's be truthful.
Right? -0.5% yesterday, -1.0% for the week. Totally normal and not deserving of any kind of adjective.
Certainly not saying Lady Trump's actions won't kill the stock market, but this ain't it yet.
Press: ryrybang slams New Republic article!
0.01% drop = plummet
0.01% rise = soar
It's the law of finance headline writing
It didn't. It dropped 300+ points. People are just waiting for the plummet. This is an omen to us. Tariffs are being imposed today and Monday will probably be a bad day.
Not exactly what I would classify as a plummet, but we were seeing green numbers for the day and then they subsequently turned down once this was announced.
Still too early to say whether we're going to be looking at any form of sharp downturn.
Starting just after 11 AM EST, the S&P went down over 1%. It's not a steep plunge; that kind of swing happened on Monday for AI, too, IIRC.
Not sure what the article is talking about. I'm sure once tariffs are announced it will drop tho. But that's a problem for monday.
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Are egg prices plummeting?
Where are all of the "I'm worried about the economy" voters at? Come on be loud and proud!
One of the funniest things I read was a WSJ article on tariffs, in the comment section. Along with a lot of copium about how they, personally, don't buy such items, some dumbass bitching that WSJ - that's right, the Wall Street Journal - is showing their bias against donvict.
The ONLY gloom and doom articles I saw in WSJ during Biden's high inflation term were in the opinion section. Your bias is clearly showing ...
Apparently, reporting on items likely to be affected by the donvict taxes on goods is "bias". That WSJ, always known for their extremist progressive WOKE agenda and their "TDS". LOL
NGL it'd be cool if VYM dropped to $77 again, I'd like to buy into more of that.
Right now it's worth $132 even though the dividends get adjusted down to if the stock was worth roughly $100.
And hedge funds keep betting against the fucking economy. 401ks, savings, and pensions will all be effected. They want to steal your money.
All I hope is that Americans grow the balls for a general strike.
There were plans for May 1st 2028 since three major unions are renegotiating at that time.
I'm not sure it can wait four years.
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Sold my VOO. I will wait until the drop to get back in.
Came here to make sure people saw some comments about cashing out and waiting this out.
I’m selling.
The upside if somehow our trade partners fold and we get sweater trade deals is the market would see a bump. Doubt it would be huge and you would have time to buy back in and suffer a small loss of growth.
This downside if this backfires is the dollar becoming weaker and opening the door for other powers to insert themselves as the economic fintech lubricator. This could see the market tumble.
'Significant losses' being 30 points?
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