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Presidential candidates raised $1.6 billion and spent over $1.3 billion

Fundraising is the goal of an election. Not the presidency.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we split the party now or are we gonna keep supporting a bunch of grifters

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In order to split the party we need a strong group to gather around in opposition to the established liberal party. And unfortunately the trademarked Progressive Party™ is owned by insane people that no one wants to have anything to do with. So another name needs to be thought up.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Not really good excuses but I'm sure it's the excuses they are using to justify changing nothing

Labour? The Worker's Party? The People's Party? The Raving Loony Nutbag Party?

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Biden won the previous election (barely) because Trump's incompetence was on full display and people were angry about it. It'll happen again, but unfortunately, elections are pretty much done in the USA. Between fuckery and intimidation, we're unlikely to see a 'fair' election until a major revolution occurs in the USA.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dems do not care to "learn". They do not want to help you. They do not want to undermine the capitalist empire. They aren't hapless, they just don't work for you.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You know how ACAB? Because a good cop will quickly get checked to doing bad cop things out of fear, or they leave (willingly or in a body bag).

I'm starting to think that with politics. You go in with the dreams of change. Then you see the bloat and bullshit. You try to pass a bill to make sure that all kids have the right to free food, and some fuck face screams at you and doxxes your family on Rogan and now you got death threats.

I don't have an answer.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

Pretty much. I think that the higher you go politically, the more that good people are filtered out by the system.

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The democrats are very good at fighting a change inside their own party. They're very bad at fighting republicans on the national stage. Case in point, voter suppression in the last election, the stolen election of Gore v. Bush in 2000 (Gore had majority in Florida in the end, did you hear CNN reporting about it?)

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The democrats are very good at fighting a change inside their own party.

The democrats are only good at fighting a change inside their own party.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

They've got that one job down.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (10 children)

The Dem base has been fully bought out by corporate interests. They are "controlled opposition" in every sense. A vestigial remnant of their 1940s peak that mostly exists to rein in the excesses of the prior conservative leadership (although, one could argue even FDR ultimately filled that role).

(Gore had majority in Florida in the end, did you hear CNN reporting about it?)

The degree to which Florida has been fumbled by Dems for the last 30 years cannot be overstated.

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[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

"Unfortunately," Geevarghese lamented, "Democratic leadership is failing disastrously to meet this urgent mandate. Ahead of tonight's forum, the DNC is actively working to silence rank-and-file Democratic activists and base voters calling for a ban on dark money in primaries and the rejection of corporate funding. In a last-minute move, they shut the event off from the public and even deliberately shared the wrong address for where grassroots supporters are allowed to gather."

How can anyone defend the DNC at this point?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How can anyone defend the DNC at this point?

I know you're not new to lemmy.

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 81 points 2 days ago (71 children)

Even this analysis doesn't capture the real problem.

Asserting that the DNC "fails to learn" implies that they have some goal they're not meeting.

They don't.

Their goal is to rake in as much corporate soft money as possible, and by that standard, this past election was a resounding success. And nothing else, including winning elections, matters to them.

So they're not really "failing" at anything. In fact they're succeeding nicely. It's just that they're succeeding at being corrupt, self-serving and deceitful.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)

When people are struggling economically, they’re looking for a change candidate. Running on everyone being better off than their actual bank statements and credit card bills say was always a shit strategy. Cozying up to Liz Cheney and her lot was secondary to that.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is exactly it. It's white Trump wins. Why people are willing to overlook all of his craziness- because his platform is one of radical change. He may be crazy and he may be full of shit but at least he is talking about change. And when you're hurting and you see the entire country hurting and you see nobody in charge giving a fuck, or worse telling you this is how it's supposed to be, you want radical change.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 9 points 2 days ago

Wait, are you trying to say the Democrats are out of touch with what the American public wants and needs, and as a consequence, may not perform as well in the upcoming elections? Gee, if only they had any warning signs.

It should be seen as extra sad that as the GOP fails in any number of areas while having a fairly strong hold on the government, that the DNC can barely do anything. Years of corruption and cronyism have taken their toll and as an institution, they have forgotten what it even takes to get elected. Just being "not Trump" is no longer enough to get voted in. They better do some pretty rapid self-improvement if they even want to remain a viable party much longer.

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