No Stupid Questions

No one in the government is going to do anything about it. They'll argue about it, but nothing will be done. They all bow and lick the boot of a fucking clown. Trump, with a lot of help from billionaires and the media, lied and manipulated his way into power, but he's just a mouthpiece and easily manipulated himself. He's not smart enough to come up with any of this. The fact that 33%+ of the country's population thinks he's a genius is sickening.

Immigration is the horror show they're going to use as a distraction while they pass Christofascist laws, all while Trump and his new billionaire buddies loot the country. I would suggest everyone actually read Project 2025 and see what their future plans are.

Every member of the military needs to be reminded that they are obligated to disobey illegal orders. They can be criminally charged for obeying an unlawful order.

Every member of the military needs to be reminded that the Posse Comitatus act prohibits the military from engaging in domestic law enforcement activities.

And every member of the military needs to be reminded that immigration is a law enforcement issue, not a military issue.

American here:

I would like for the civilized world to do a full trade embargo on the US. I want the economy to nosedive so hard that either the GOP votes to remove the motherfucker from office, or get crushed in the biggest electoral landslide in history in 2026.

Gitmo should have been shut down two decades ago. Torture, waterboarding, "advanced interrogation techniques" ... don't think we forgot about that. It's a shame that no American president had the courage to close down dirty military institutions.

I plan on complaining about it on the Internet. That'll show 'em!

It is highly unlikely that anyone will be able to do anything about this, or any of the other many shotgun shenanigans rolling out of the White House of late. They've got all three branches of the federal government, laws clearly do not apply, and Trump himself has explicit permission from SCOTUS to commit crimes.

Any opportunity to stop all of this was at the beginning of November.

No, there is no stopping it, not any time soon. If there's a midterm election, there might be a chance of wresting back one (or one half) of those branches of government, but even if Democrats take control of one or both houses, they don't have the best track record of doing anything about it.

It will not end well, and when shit goes sideways, it's gonna happen fast.

Did we stop them from building the internment camps at the border in his last term?

Nice try, FBI

Yes, I already did, even before this particular news broke out...

I tried to individually tell every one I know IRL (which is not too many ppl sadly), basically told every single one of them to consider back-up career options... There are a couple of 1-year exchange students from Europe in my floor and I have not-subtly hinted at them to make contingency plans for PhD training back home. I've been following the news very carefully recently so I can share relevant items as soon as possible... The people need to know. I've even considered making know-your-rights printouts before they claimed they're doing an ICE raid in Chicago, but realized how little resources I have for that... I absolutely will do something. Not sure what it is but I can't see society go this way.

I just feel bad that as a non-US citizen there is only so little I can do... I don't even know if I could join a protest without being considered for deportation at this rate. Am planning my leave as well so there's that.

Funny incident, I blurted out to my family 2-months ago that Trump will probably build a concentration camp and was told to shut the F up... Murphy's law I suppose

Yeah, I voted for Harris. Unfortunately, 6.27 Million 2020 Biden voters did not do the same.

Gonna be tough to stop the creation of the camp since it’s in Cuba but there are orgs that are rolling out strategies to protect people in their communities from getting caught up in this. Check out your local orgs and see who is working on this and cooperate with them.

Internet search for ICE watch and your city or region would be a good place to start. And I know people hate Reddit but a lot of people on my local sub are talking about this too.

Those who could do something about it won't.

Those who would do something about it can't.

Everyone who was supposed to prevent this and had the power to do so either tried and failed or didn't bother.

Right now the objective is "Survive", the bad guys have already won.

A consideration to the ending of slavery in the United States was the advent of photography. Film was used to share the horror of the Nazi concentration camps in WW2 because they knew there would be people who deny history. Israel denied access and targeted journalists in Gaza for over a year for a reason.

Public perception sways from indifference to protests when they can't look away from the destructive results. It's the whole reason black sites like Guantanamo Bay exist in the first place and were used to hold extradited citizens without due process for years, they want to pretend the Constitution doesn't exist and they haven't sworn oaths to it and will do everything they can to hide their crimes.

Recommenting from another post:

I sent a text to those I love in any capacity, even former coworkers who’ve probably deleted my number. Not a group text - one by one. I think it’d be prudent for all US readers to consider doing the same.

Knowing some of you are like me, in that you might not know how to word such a text to someone not expecting it from you, I offer you my copy/pasted text:

America has a concentration camp now. I won’t send you anything more…it’s kind of rude that I’m sending this one. https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/donald-trump-announces-plan-to-send-migrants-guantanamo-bay/

Maybe we can start by looking at all the corporations who are most supporting him, and push hard for boycotts. It might be slightly indirect, but corporate partners do seem to have the most influence on policy decisions. Maybe we could make a document in the style of the PrivacyGuides project to help people choose alternatives to fascist supporters.

I've seen posts on Mastodon calling for the general strike as well.

I dunno man....are you? I can't afford to go to prison. I have three kids that rely on me for sustenance and a house. Nothing that Trump administration does is going to make life more difficult for me currently. I'm emailing politicians, trying to make good points online, and protest. I think that's all I can do right now. Now, if my family is threatened, or I can no longer provide for my family, then we'll talk again.

Is there anything Americans could do to petition other countries to help us? ICC or the UN? Or in civil court, could we crowdfund lawyers to sue the government?

Nice try FBI guy.

I don't genuinely think there is anything we can do without getting rid of our current government in its entirety. That or stuff I won't say online.

Maybe an actually successful general strike?

Guantanamo bay was a thing ever since 2002. Biden and Obama tried to make it smaller. Trump is trying to grow it. If there was a clear action to be done that ended this abhorrence it would have been done by now already, but it has proved too resilient already. So no, there isn't anything that's gonna be done about it, except grow it as per Trump's request.

We have had one there for 25 years now.

I’m sure the private prison industry will lobby to use them as slaves

And then the US said to Germany, "We too, can do Auschwitz."