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Summary

Polish Tourism Minister Sławomir Nitras has called for a Tesla boycott following Elon Musk’s remarks urging Germany to “move past” its Nazi history.

Musk’s comments, made during a far-right AfD campaign event, sparked outrage, particularly in Poland, which lost 6 million people in WWII.

The controversy comes ahead of Germany’s February 23 election and just before Musk’s Tesla earnings call.

As a key advisor to Trump, Musk’s stance could impact Tesla’s market position in Europe, where historical remembrance remains a sensitive issue.

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[–] WorldwideCommunity@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Notice how slowly step by little step extremists are pushing their agenda on the world.

[–] yoreel@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

But wait, they say it's the gays and the Jews are the ones with the agenda??

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 140 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The Swedish strike is still ongoing. The German protest against their factory is still ongoing. The cyber truck can never be approved for use on roads in all of Europe. Every fourth Tesla fails the first EU-inspection. The average for all cars is 3%, so it's exceptionally bad.

I don't think a boycott is even necessary. There are enough reasons not to buy a Tesla.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 3 days ago

It might not be necessary to stop him from selling cars in the EU, but the symbolism of it would be fantastic.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Every fourth Tesla fails the first EU-inspection. The average for all cars is 3%, so it's exceptionally bad.

I also wouldn't buy a car from that freak for various reasons but that high failure rate at the first inspection can be at least partly explained. Tesla - unlike most manufacturers - doesn't do regular inspections on their own. Most cars are checked (and repaired!) by the dealership before they get officially checked. Therefore, the 25% aren't completely comparable to the 3%.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, so they are externalizing QA to dealerships? Do they own the dealerships?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes that was one of their big business model points. Saves thousands on each vehicle. Technically afaik there is no "dealership", it's their corporate store.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But do they really have those many qualified QAs to send to each dealership? I entered one of their dealership only once and the guy talking to me, and appearing to run everything in there, sounded like a cryptobro on coke, but that was in Sweden, so I may not have a good idea of the reality of things elsewhere.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That makes about as much sense as shipping their vehicles without paint. Oh wait...

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

Top tip: if you want your local cybertruck off the road. E scooters can total them by denting the impossible to repair body panels.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

There are soooooo many teslas and cyberfucks in the US. It's horrible

TBF, half the cyberfucks I see are broken down

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just ban Tesla, X and everything else owned by Elon Musk

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's the first time i've ever seen it described as "ban" but I support the sentiment.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Like full ban from society, 8 billions people not talking or interacting with you. He can have food and shelter but nothing else

[–] Technotica@lemmy.world 103 points 4 days ago (7 children)

As an aside, I love the irony of that speech. Musk tells the wannabe Nazis that they can forget about the sins of their (great)grandparents.

The idiots of the AFD want to forget the past simply so they can repeat it.

They want to repeat the sins of their forefathers, they just don't want to be reminded of the consequences that followed.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Still grandparents in a lot of cases. I’m 40 and my grandfather fought the Japanese in WWII.

Plenty of people left on this planet who had grandparents on every side of that war.

Or maybe your parentheses was meant to cover both.

Yeah it was.

Fuck it. I typed it. Maybe some other idiot will read it wrong.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Hey, hey. We can start a club!

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[–] rascalnikov 7 points 3 days ago

I somewhat disagree. They don't want to forget, they want to finish the job. They have immense pride in something they should feel shame for. That, I think, is the issue. The unwillingness to feel shame, so they replace that feeling with over-zealous pride.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 32 points 3 days ago

And those who do, are condemned to watch the rest of them repeat it. :(

[–] __nobodynowhere@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

Those who do remember the past intentionally repeat it because they are fucking Nazis.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 63 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The only way for Germany to move past its Nazi history is not to forget it but to learn from it. For Germany to truly move past its guilt it must:

  1. Ban the AfD (they're in the process) and ensure Europe is free of fascists
  2. Guide Europe toward a bright free future (they are doing this)
  3. Protect Europe from its threats and ensure no nation will ever devisate it again (they're in the process, hopefully they can establish a federal European military)
[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Instead of,learning from it, the guilt from it means they support genocide in Palestine, while those in the far right want to relive it. Germanys economy is not going great, which leads to more unrest.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 4 days ago (3 children)
  1. Not elect the conservative party who are starting to take up most of the AfD's program and sabotage points 1 through 3 (they're failing catastrophically when looking at polls)
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[–] WorldwideCommunity@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

How can Germany force other European nations not to elect fascist parties?

[–] khortits@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Poland of all countries...

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Yeah, fuck Elon

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

Fascists will never ever be not guilty

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 53 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

The EU should impose a continent-wide ban on Tesla imports (or steep tariffs eh? Why not copy the orange peel) until Tesla offloads Musk - including buying back his shares.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 51 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Any democratic society should boycott Tesla until Musk is removed from the company.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Divests from.. him being investee in a company should disqualify it.

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 days ago

it's only been 80 years, these motherfuckers can't get over the US civil war after 160 years.

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago

As a Pole: Its funny to see hoe people in Poland is viewed by other countries vs how its actually viewed.

  1. Soon government starts program of subsidizing buying new EVs. Teslas are not excluded. Its basically poor financing rich's new cars.

https://www.gov.pl/web/nfosigw/program-naszeauto-do-40-tys-zl-doplaty-do-samochodu-elektrycznego

  1. Main opposition party demands deposition from minister who made unfortunate slip of the tounge and didnt immediately correct herself on international conference on 80th anniversary of liberating of the largest concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau. "In the territory occupied by Germany, Polish Nazis built camps that were labor camps, which later became mass extermination camps."

https://www.pap.pl/aktualnosci/obozy-zbudowali-niemcy-polskich-nazistow-nie-bylo-barbara-nowacka-przeprasza-za

I'm convinced Elon's final act will be running over minorities in a Cybertruck while strung out on Ketamine.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 days ago

He's right we should move past the guilt and onto whatever it is that strips modern day Nazis of their wealth for reparations.

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