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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 0 points 40 minutes ago

So what you're saying is, Trump loves child exploitation and drug trafficking.

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

President of a civilized country should not have this power.

[–] Celediel@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 hours ago

Key word here is civilized.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 42 points 7 hours ago

Fuck it. I’m gonna rob a bank, give Trump half, and get pardoned.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Keep in mind that a big part of why Ulbricht was in jail was paying to have multiple people murdered

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

False. Those charges were all dismissed. Dont spread misinformation.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

He paid money to have people killed in order to protect his profits

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/silk-road-drug-vendor-who-claimed-commit-murders-hire-silk-road-founder-ross-ulbricht

The fact that he wasn't convicted of it doesn't mean it didn't happen

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok, you've got me on the wording. He wasn't in jail because he paid for hits, but my point being no matter your thoughts on drug policy, Ross should be in prison

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong: IIRC the feds sent back mock pictures to 'confirm' the victims were killed, so I don't know if anyone was assassinated in reality but, as you said, Ulbricht payed to have them murdered.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You're correct. They were all scams, including one by the US government

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn't mean they're scams. Ross really did earnestly pay to get people killed, he just got caught in a honey trap trying to do so and that's a good thing

[–] SpicyAnt@mander.xyz 1 points 7 minutes ago

I have seen this repeated multiple times on Lemmy. When I look this up, I find:

So, the charges are dismissed with prejudice, the DEA agent imprisoned for corruption, the alleged victim testifies in his favor. What makes the other narrative compelling? I see people citing the court document in which the claims were made..... But what is the value of that document if the result was a dismissal with prejudice? Shouldn't that support the innocence narrative?

I am genuinely curious. I'm not necessarily advocating his innocence, I want to understand what other people know that makes them so convinced that he is guilty of this.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Did you just restate exactly what the person above you already said?

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago

I was clarifying and adding more details, and also restating to make it clear I wasn't disagreeing at all or trivializing it.

[–] azl@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Was it? It wasn't mentioned in the article and I don't think I've ever heard that before.

"Ulbricht was found guilty of charges including conspiracy to commit drug trafficking, money laundering and computer hacking."

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I've never heard about this.

Can you provide a source?

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Google dude. It was all over the news back when it was new news.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Google didn't turn up anything conclusive.

Are you sure you're not misremembering this or making it up? It should be pretty easy for you to provide a source if it's true.

[–] mount_snowden@lemmy.ml 33 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Don't be fooled - Trump cut a deal with the Libertarian Party promising he would do this if he won the election. It seems that yet again, he can conceive of no morality greater than transactionalism.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Compromising with voters? What a violation of politician ethics. Democrats would never to that

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

But he won the election, why does he have to keep his word to the libertarian party? What are they gonna do if he doesn’t follow through?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 hours ago

Well now I’m wondering who this could fool and how…

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

How does that fool people? It sounds like you're scared that some people may consider his pardon to be semi-good & it bothers you that he might be capable of some good too?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 hours ago

Legend. Huge congrats to Ross and his family for this outcome. Here's to many more DNMs coming up in the future!

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I have to say… even with the Elon influence, I didn’t see that one coming. Ulbricht stole capital from the rich and enabled stuff including human trafficking considered evil by the religious right. But I guess he also stuck it to The Man, for which he is being rewarded.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 4 hours ago

Human trafficking was not allowed. Not even CCs were allowed. Silk road didn't let you sell anything that harmed others.

Also, how did Ulbricht steal from the rich?!?

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago

He's also partially responsible for why cryptocurrency has any worth at all.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Human trafficking is considered evil by everyone unless you're a pedo/psychopath

[–] knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 hours ago

now we know why he was pardoned

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Have any other good pardons come through?