The irony with Microsoft business decision here seems limitless. 10-14-25 is the date Windows 10 will no longer be officially supported. This just so happens to also be the date for International E-Waste day as well as KDE's birthday. To me this is hillarious and makes me wonder why the hell Microsoft didn't do even a tiny bit of looking into what else takes place on 10-14. Hopefully this will help 2025 actually be the year of the Linux desktop we've been waiting for!
this post was submitted on 17 Jan 2025
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10-14-25
The 10th of Duember?
The 25th of Quaddecember, 2010
this is the same company that chose build 2600 for winxp, remember.. odds are, someone at microsoft knew of kde's "birthday" when 10's eol date was finalized. i dunno exactly when that decision was made, the first itu 'e-waste day' could have come after that.
I don't think Linux is going to explode in market share any time soon. It might go up a little.
The more windows falls down the enshittification spiral, the more likely the EU will get pissed at Microsoft and fund Linux environments where it's needed.
I really hope it does tho. I just want more market share to have more software support.
not too big marketshare can be* positive thing though. Not that its something to strive towards.
This is a victory.
-- Every loser.
Slightly related : there is a lemmy learn Linux community I used to see on my feed - does anyone know it so I can subscribe again please ?
My old computer took to Mint without much of a problem. My newer one... many things didn't work. The mint discord was very helpful though!
It's a shame more manufacturers don't sell machines that are already set up with Linux, so you don't have to worry about like "oh WiFi doesn't work for some esoteric reason?" as much
with as cheap as commoditized hardware has become, im surprised there isnt anyone offering mint on a desktop/laptop thereby saving the microsoft tax.
There are. Several, in fact.
- Framework will sell you a laptop with no OS, but each laptop is certified 100% compatible with Linux
- For years, Dell has sold laptops with Linux pre-installed.
- StarLabs sells desktops and a couple different types of laptops with Linux installed.
- Lenovo (it may look like Windows only, but go into build one, and one of the OS choices is Ubuntu)
- system76
- HP Dev One (Hewlett-Packard)
- Purism
- and
- more
Hell, you can buy a laptop with Linux pre-installed from Amazon!
That's mostly focusing on just laptops; there's a dozen other companies selling desktop and mini-PCs with Linux, and some hardware manufacturers (Raspberry, ODroid?) don't even have Windows as an option.
There is a wide variety of laptops, desktops, mini-PCs, and SBCs to buy with Linux pre-installed. I'm more surprised that there's someone who thinks there isn't, than by how many options there are.
Just jumping in to say I would recommend trying something other than a StarLabs laptop. Not impressed with my Starbook MKV at all (good on paper, cheap quality in person and loses battery when the lid is shut), so I need to constantly charge it. My next one will probably be from purism.
Good, valuable input.
My next laptop will be a Framework; the self-repairability and upgradeability is intoxicating.
awesome!
This came and went as a trend. Linux as a default for those who didn't want to pay for OEM Windows was frequent in smaller PC shops, especially back when you had to manually punch in a key. My memory of it is it went away once a) the modern activation scheme rolled out, and b) people stopped buying shop-made PCs in favor of prebuilts or custom builds.
And let me be clear, the idea was you got the PC with Linux to check that everything worked and you'd then proceed to install Windows on your own, either from a legit CD you owned or by pirating a key. Which I guess is in itself a measure of how much people around these parts overrepresent how much the average normie cares about "official support".
A few laptop houses do still ship Linux as an option, but that's more of a statement and meant to be used. And less frequent, too.
This came and went as a trend.
how along ago was that? before 11? before 8? shits come a long way even in just the last 5 years. linux on the desktop is out-of-the-box at least as capable as windows 7, and mint has a lovely curated app store for easy app installs.
Yeah, that's why I pointed out this used to be presented as a placeholder for testing the hardware before installing a non-OEM Windows while when it's done now it's more of a "this device is meant to run Linux" thing.
It was more frequent but not exactly the same dynamic.
And yeah, this was twenty years ago. I'm dead and buried.
been in the business for twenty-five years, and counting. saving the small builder's "microsoft tax" still doesn't let them compete on price with the basic mass-market systems from the major oems like dell and hp--companies that buy their shit by the 10s of millions per year. they also pay much less for a windows license, and in the end essentially gets paid to put it on from the preload deals and commissions they get.
I think you can get pre-configured systems. I believe the distro website actually links to some.
I also think at least in the past OEM’s were under contracts that stipulated Windows only.
I've just installed mint on an old laptop and plan on switching my main system around.
I would like advice on what gaming laptop would work best with Linux. I heard amd is preferable, but there's quite little laptops with amd video cards.
My current laptop has a split video card with a Intel and Nvidia one, I think that would be hard to run Linux on...