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The irony with Microsoft business decision here seems limitless. 10-14-25 is the date Windows 10 will no longer be officially supported. This just so happens to also be the date for International E-Waste day as well as KDE's birthday. To me this is hillarious and makes me wonder why the hell Microsoft didn't do even a tiny bit of looking into what else takes place on 10-14. Hopefully this will help 2025 actually be the year of the Linux desktop we've been waiting for!
The 10th of Duember?
The 25th of Quaddecember, 2010
this is the same company that chose build 2600 for winxp, remember.. odds are, someone at microsoft knew of kde's "birthday" when 10's eol date was finalized. i dunno exactly when that decision was made, the first itu 'e-waste day' could have come after that.
You guys actually make conspiracy theorists sound sane. Is Linux even at a 10% market share yet? You really think all the businesses and personal users on Windows are going to en mass switch to an operating system they don't understand that requires them to constantly configure and adjust things to get stuff working, requires them to get comfortable with using terminal to accomplish stuff when they have only ever used GUI applications their entire lives, AND it doesn't run half the programs they rely on and are used to, to do what they need?
Well, this was the case maybe 5 years ago, if not 10+ years back. Linux Mint, Ubuntu, PopOS, Fedora, and ElementaryOS can all be run via a GUI. Additionally, you're comment about programs is baseless. If you switch from Windows to Mac guess what will have to happen, you'll have to start using similar but not the same programs. However, using a VM or Wine isn't hard whatsoever thanks to YT walkthroughs. It's 10 to 20 minutes of guided clicking and then you're running Windows programs on Linux.
96% of the top 1,000,000 servers online and 100% of super computers run Linux. But people are creatures of habit and when compounded with a statement like this riddled with half truths, it only makes most folks more hesitant to switch. 4.1% of PCs run a common Linux distro, 1.9% run ChromeOS, and 6.4% run an "unknown" OS, which is widely believed to be Linux as well. So 12.4% of PC's run some form of Linux and with the SteamOS release around the corner, this will breach 15% for sure. But okay, we're a bunch of loons who like owning the equipment we bought and enjoy the financial + security + privacy perks of open sourced software. If nothing else, I hope you feel better. Take care!
Between cloud apps and RemoteApp technology, there is a pretty decent chance for Linux desktops with Windows servers becoming the norm, again, for smaller size businesses. Organizations I work with still use thin clients, which - what's the difference? And based on end user reactions to the UI when upgrading to Windows 11 - all change is hard. They'd get used to it fast. Especially if it acts mostly like Windows 10.
Please provide a link to the flavor that mostly acts like Windows 10. I'm legitimately asking because any I'm used to are not plug and play in the slightest. In my experience I spend so much time hunting down how to do the simplest stuff in Windows on Linux and it's usually a huge chore to accomplish when I do find out how it needs to be done. Like, can I open a text editor with ease? Sure. But I didn't think the standard of a good OS in 2025 was the same standard as a good OS in 1985. I do a lot more then edit code on my PC. I want to see the Linux flavor that out of the box has at least as much of the functionality I come to expect from Windows without having to spend days configuring. I want the Linux flavor that doesn't require me to run half my shit through Wine because no one's made a Linux alternative.
As much as it sucks, if you seriously want to use Linux you'll have to adjust. It's not the same system and doesn't have all the same software. Same thing as moving to Mac. Moving from Android to iPhone or vice versa. If you are unwilling or unable to adjust then that's fine. But realise that it's not the OS that's at fault. Especially when there are people who use it every day.
As someone suggest Zorin, they have worked hard to be a transition system, but if you want true GUI and no command line tinkering try OpenSUSE--everything can be tweaked and configured via the various Yast2 GUI modules.
https://zorin.com/os/
What are you doing with your machine that would be confusing for your standard end user? KDE out of the box is good enough for my daily driving. PopOS, Bazzite, and Mint work great. GUI options for most normal computing things you'd do these days. The amount of customization allowed on an end user's machine is often minimal anyway. Plus, you sorta imply that the end user would be doing all this, instead of an IT admin preconfiguring a machine with Ansible or a custom install script. I think you may be over estimating what your typical business user does. It's mostly "Here's my chat, here's my browser, here's my 1-5 LOB apps, here's my printer. Can I change my background to my kids? Great."