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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] tht@social.pwned.page 4 points 13 hours ago

Its a leftist space that sometimes has trolls

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 131 points 1 day ago (8 children)

TLDR: they are right-wingers pretending to be left wing

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 13 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

What does the Y axis represent here?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The amount of mental gymnastics being done to justify their ideology

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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Separation from reality, maybe?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It looks like another way of drawing the political compass left/right (collective vs individual rights) on the x axis and authoritarian/libertarian (obedience to centralized authority hierarchy vs distributed political pluralism) on the y axis. Tankies and far right would be in auth q1 and q2, far left q3, and not representing q4 labeling the quadrants from top left clockwise.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

If we read it as a political compass

Auth+

Lib-

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[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 40 points 22 hours ago (13 children)

I love this image. Something that always confused me is that they are communist, but support russia? An extremely far right government?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 38 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Authoritarians like authoritarian regimes. They'll perform extreme mental gymnastics to reconcile their preconceived notions with reality, like the tankies that declare China to be socialist. Also, most of them see the US as the Great Satan that is responsible for any and all evil in the world. Therefore anybody who opposes the Great Satan must be good.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I can't help but wonder if tankies are the political equivalent of flat-earthers. I should probably ask that on NSQ some time, when I can figure out a way of asking that won't get me banned.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

we don't, we just hate the us more.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

It's obvious you hate yourselves most.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago

"Anyone right of me is Hitler" sounds pretty on point for them. Instance block and move on with your day.

[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago (10 children)

Honestly, if you're not a communist, the less you know the better.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 24 points 21 hours ago

Wow, I was wondering why I hadn't blocked a single hexbear or lemmy.ml user here: my instance did it for me! I've had multiple accounts on multiple servers and consistently had to block hexbear users until finally blocking hexbear outright. It's been a much better experience then.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are the "Tankie Triad".

Hexbear is the worst most extreme of them and lemmy.ml is the least which is why they've managed to avoid getting defederated from world (either that or because they're like the third largest instance behind only .world and SJW)

Hexbear is pretty widely defederated

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot of .ml users and communities are there just because it was the only big instance much earlier on. I'm in no way a tankie but still use .ml a lot (a community I run is on there) because it was the first one I made and i'm too lazy to look into new instances or switch.

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 9 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

yeah the other two I definately agree with, but lemmy.ml is mostly tame.

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[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would block hexbear. I've done it server-wide. They are mostly very loud trolls pretending to be communists. Some could be actual communists, but I don't buy anyone actually wanting to be in such a toxic environment and believe what they claim to believe.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 2 points 16 hours ago

To add to your comment: Blocking the instance at user level is pointless, it only blocks their posts,not their users, so you still have to deal with their bullshit and they post their propaganda at every instance that tolerates them so it makes its way to those who blocked it anyway.
The only solution is to defederate.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 32 points 1 day ago (5 children)

block hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml. And any user named "UniversalMonk" on any instance. You'll thank me later.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 29 points 22 hours ago

I'd probably be more selective about blocking users from lemmy.ml, but I'm a bit biased in the question given the server I chose when I joined Lemmy

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

my first account was on lemmy.ml because it was one of the top options on one of the apps I used. it stopped working with jerboa which why I switched to lemmy.world...

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

is it possible for lemmy user to "federate them in"/include in single feed?

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[–] kaprap@leminal.space 36 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm sorry if I sound tone deaf I am new to Lemmy .~.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 25 points 1 day ago

Welcome to lemmy! For the most part lemmy is nice place to be. You will still we the occasional crazy though. Defiantly not something you see all the time. If you find a user, community or instance popping off a bunch of crazy the best thing to do is block them. You won't be missing anything without them.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 17 points 1 day ago

Welcome and there is zero need to apologize. Some people (and group of them) can be a real pain. Once you have learned how to filter them out, it's a nice place with nice people. There is no shame in blocking them, a bit like I would not let someone enter my home so they shout their nonsense into my ears, or make their mess on the carpet.

Once again, welcome ;)

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 16 points 23 hours ago

I'm sorry u had to experience these extremists. Block the instance and forget about them.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tankies, mostly. They're on my blocklist,but managed to avoid it for a disgustingly long time; they do have some good content from time to time, but in the end seeing the repeated vitriol and genocide denialism simply wasn't worth it.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hexbear is a different instance where its users are basically a group of hard communism supporters. If you disliked their behavior, feel free to block their instance.

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are not only hard communists, they have 0 interest in propagating their ideas, they only insult and despise everyone who is not 100% in agreement with them. In the best case, and I don't think it is, it is an endogamous community only for themselves, the opposite of what a federated social network is

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