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In the last few months i really gotten into the whole Fediverse thing, but i noticed that, despite it being the most popular Social Media Platform, there isn't a TikTok alternative. I know there is Loops, but it's not open source or federated yet, so it's not really an option. Why is that?

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[–] underscores@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

Vidzy and the loops server code are available under AGPL. The loops app isn't open source yet, but has to be eventually as part of the NLnet grant agreement.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Most of the content on TikTok is created by people because they want to earn money with it. But most of it isn't content which would make it possible to build up a supporter base through Patreon, OnlyFans etc. So where is the money going to come from to attract such content creators to a potential Fediverse TikTok alternative?

[–] OhYeah@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Loops is new and still in beta. The dev has said that he wants to wait to open source it until he feels it's current state is ready to be on other people's servers (once it reaches 1.0). I can't say I agree with the thought process but at least with pixelfed he did the same process and actually followed through on federation and open sourcing

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 30 points 18 hours ago

The grant he's receiving to develop it requires it to be open source.

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 13 points 15 hours ago

Nobody pays for that much bandwidth without the ability to manipulate you through profiling and impressions. You are the product. The product is not sharing videos. There is no fediverse platform that makes you its whore. If you were to make a video sharing platform, it would never work, because that is not the product, it's only a feature of what makes up the dopamine machine.

Lemmy will also never outgrow commercial platforms, because the commercial platforms also never were about content.

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

[TikTok is] the most popular Social Media Platform

I'm not calling you a liar, but this is news to me. Do you have any data to back up that assertion?

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 20 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

YouTube is a social network?

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

No. But it is a social media site, and people have been conflating the two for twenty years now.

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm often surprised by how active and "engaged" the comment section can get, especially on live videos.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I am often surprised how toxic yt comments are.

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Perhaps I spend too much time reading them, but I'm more surprised when the comment section is NOT toxic!

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'd say third. YouTube isn't really a social media platform, nor WeChat.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

If tiktok is sa social media platform, then so is youtube/

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 19 hours ago

It's not true. Not even close.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 2 points 18 hours ago

It could vary by age group, so not most popular overall, but it's relative.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 8 points 17 hours ago
[–] astro_ray@piefed.social 13 points 20 hours ago

It's still in the early days of development and you will probably have to wait a bit for full AP implementation.

[–] Maroon@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

[Loops](https://dataconomy.com › 2024 › 10 › 28 › loops-the-fediverse-tiktok-alternative)

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 12 points 19 hours ago
[–] huginn@feddit.it 7 points 18 hours ago

I know there is Loops, but it's not open source or federated yet, so it's not really an option.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com -2 points 19 hours ago

because the team building it are better at marketing what they want it to do rather than what it actually does.

doesnt federate. doesnt embed. requires their app or view only in their walled garden. so far its just yet-another-short-form-video-site